What Makes Supporters Believe Jeremy is Innocent?

[guest2181]

No they aren't.

Do they not get a check or review for their mental health and well being? 

I thought that was the suggestion when it was claimed he'd had   27 (or something like that) tests to see if he was a psychopath.

I don't know, but it sounded feasible at the time. 

[Alias]

Do they not get a check or review for their mental health and well being? 

I thought that was the suggestion when it was claimed he'd had   27 (or something like that) tests to see if he was a psychopath.

I don't know, but it sounded feasible at the time. 

Wouldn´t it be awfully expensive to evaluate every single (cat A?) prisoner on a yearly basis?
Of course I have heard of those 27 psychological tests, but I always found it strange that he would be tested once a year; but then, what do I know!

[Caroline]

Have you been told so ?
Do they not report any sudden " strange " behaviour ,so that a further assessment can take place ?

The annual assessment is nothing to do with psychological tests (they would be too expensive), they are simply to review the category status and level of dangerousness the inmate would pose if he/she escaped.

It is an assessment of 'risk' not a psychological evaluation.

https://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/offenders/psipso/psi-2011/psi-40-2011-categorisation-adult-males.doc

https://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/offenders/psipso/psi-2013/psi-05-2013-categ-mgt-potential-cat-a.doc

[Jane]

Do they not get a check or review for their mental health and well being? 

I thought that was the suggestion when it was claimed he'd had   27 (or something like that) tests to see if he was a psychopath.

I don't know, but it sounded feasible at the time. 

Hartley, if you go down the road of the possibility of a general, non specific, yearly check up, 27 years/27 checks sounds about right.

[guest2181]

Wouldn´t it be awfully expensive to evaluate every single (cat A?) prisoner on a yearly basis?
Of course I have heard of those 27 psychological tests, but I always found it strange that he would be tested once a year; but then, what do I know!

I don't know either.

[Caroline]

Do they not get a check or review for their mental health and well being? 

I thought that was the suggestion when it was claimed he'd had   27 (or something like that) tests to see if he was a psychopath.

I don't know, but it sounded feasible at the time. 

He said he had been 'assessed' 27 times and at that point, he would have had 27 annual assessments - of 'risk' not a psychological evaluation. You only get those kinds of reviews IF you show signs on mental deterioration. Like Alias says, it would be too expensive.

[guest2181]

Hartley, if you go down the road of the possibility of a general, non specific, yearly check up, 27 years/27 checks sounds about right.

Yeah that's pretty much where I was going.

[David1819]

The annual assessment is nothing to do with psychological tests (they would be too expensive), they are simply to review the category status and level of dangerousness the inmate would pose if he/she escaped.

It is an assessment of 'risk' not a psychological evaluation.

https://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/offenders/psipso/psi-2011/psi-40-2011-categorisation-adult-males.doc

https://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/offenders/psipso/psi-2013/psi-05-2013-categ-mgt-potential-cat-a.doc

Jeremy seems to have stayed out of trouble while inside as far as I know 

[guest2181]

He said he had been 'assessed' 27 times and at that point, he would have had 27 annual assessments - of 'risk' not a psychological evaluation. You only get those kinds of reviews IF you show signs on mental deterioration. Like Alias says, it would be too expensive.

Are you telling me I've been lied to then?   

[Caroline]

Jeremy seems to have stayed out of trouble while inside as far as I know 

He's been in trouble a few times but I guess you can't be in that kind of environment without getting in a few scrapes.

[guest154]

He said he had been 'assessed' 27 times and at that point, he would have had 27 annual assessments - of 'risk' not a psychological evaluation. You only get those kinds of reviews IF you show signs on mental deterioration. Like Alias says, it would be too expensive.

And a bit pointless really. I think a sly attempt was made to make it sound as if his annual assessment was to see if he was a phsycopath or not - it sounds like a general thing that every prisoner recieves so not sure why Bamber or the OCT made mention of it.

[Caroline]

Are you telling me I've been lied to then?   

Lied to? Hmmmm, maybe a bit strong - 'hoodwinked' might be a better description!! 

[Caroline]

And a bit pointless really. I think a sly attempt was made to make it sound as if his annual assessment was to see if he was a phsycopath or not - it sounds like a general thing that every prisoner recieves so not sure why Bamber or the OCT made mention of it.

That's exactly what it is.

[guest2181]

Jeremy seems to have stayed out of trouble while inside as far as I know 

Nice caveat, there have been a couple of incidents.

I forget the exact details, but he had his throat slashed, he attacked another inmate with a broken bottle (may be the same incident), and participated in dirty protests.

[guest2181]

Lied to? Hmmmm, maybe a bit strong - 'hoodwinked' might be a better description!! 

I am just mucking abooot.