What Makes Supporters Believe Jeremy is Innocent?

[Adam]

If Jeremy did not use the silencer, then he knows Sheila's blood was somehow expertly planted.

If he did use the silencer, he knows it's Sheila's blood.

Either way, the blood and testing method tests carried out years later will not give him any joy.

So why do it ?

[Alias]

A pop at Adam? That's very Alias-ish!!!!

I don't want to take over this topic though,  I GENUINELY am interested in supporters putting forward why they support Bamber. Or even guilters saying what parts of the case, if any, actually bug them and leave them with questions.

Exactly, I don't believe the lab/police/family all concocted this big conspiracy. There was blood in the silencer.

How can you demand evidence from members of an internet forum? All people can do is ecpress where they have their doubts about the case from - which some have done.
But of course it isn´t good enough. Ask a question, get some answers - they are not to your liking, so, ner ner ner ner. That is what Adam does all the time.

[guest154]

How can you demand evidence from members of an internet forum? All people can do is ecpress where they have their doubts about the case from - which some have done.
But of course it isn´t good enough. Ask a question, get some answers - they are not to your liking, so, ner ner ner ner. That is what Adam does all the time.

Who's demanding?
It would take me a lot to support someone in prison for any crime, especially one of this magnitude. I would be able to at least say why I support that person.

[Alias]

Who's demanding?
It would take me a lot to support someone in prison for any crime, especially one of this magnitude. I would be able to at least say why I support that person.

Personally I am not supporting Jeremy, because I don´t know whether he did commit the murders. I would never write to him - I wouldn´t take the chance. I could be writing to a murderer.
All I have is doubts about the case. A lot of other people have doubts too, why else would we be discussing a 30 year old case at all?

[Jane]

A pop at Adam? That's very Alias-ish!!!!

I don't want to take over this topic though,  I GENUINELY am interested in supporters putting forward why they support Bamber. Or even guilters saying what parts of the case, if any, actually bug them and leave them with questions.

Exactly, I don't believe the lab/police/family all concocted this big conspiracy. There was blood in the silencer.

I do wonder about possible collusion of the unspoken kind. It wouldn't have taken a degree in ANYTHING to work out what were the wider family's feelings for Jeremy. I know from experience BOTH what is seen by some as an adopted child's place in a family where a family business is concerned, AND what infighting can take place within business families -when it comes to the division of assets- when there are NO adopted siblings/members to consider.

[guest154]

Personally I am not supporting Jeremy, because I don´t know whether he did commit the murders. I would never write to him - I wouldn´t take the chance. I could be writing to a murderer.
All I have is doubts about the case. A lot of other people have doubts too, why else would we be discussing a 30 year old case at all?

I know people have doubts - that's what this topic was supposed to be about. Guilters have been why they believe Bamber is guilty - nothing wrong with asking supporters what their doubts are.

I do wonder about possible collusion of the unspoken kind. It wouldn't have taken a degree in ANYTHING to work out what were the wider family's feelings for Jeremy. I know from experience BOTH what is seen by some as an adopted child's place in a family where a family business is concerned, AND what infighting can take place within business families -when it comes to the division of assets- when there are NO adopted siblings/members to consider.

Agreed, nothing can split families quicker than money, businesses, possesions.

[John]

I actually didn't mean it like that,because he will be allowed an appeal and he will win this time round. What I meant was if the tiniest bit of FORENSIC evidence pointed his way,then I'd throw the towel in,and I'd be the FIRST to admit defeat,but other than that,I don't envisage any problems in the next submission.

Somehow I don't think even you are so naive as to believe there will ever be another appeal let alone any referral by the CCRC.   I can understand you trying to save face lookout but lets face it, this case is effectively over.  The evidence is overwhelming!

[guest154]

Somehow I don't think even you are so naive as to believe there will ever be another appeal let alone any referral by the CCRC.   I can understand you trying to save face lookout but lets face it, this case is effectively over.

I don't think another appeal will be accepted, do you John? CCRC seemed pretty clear on that.

[Patti]

Personally I am not supporting Jeremy, because I don´t know whether he did commit the murders. I would never write to him - I wouldn´t take the chance. I could be writing to a murderer.
All I have is doubts about the case. A lot of other people have doubts too, why else would we be discussing a 30 year old case at all?

I think that is a fair analysis Alias. None of us are in any way members of a support team. I personally have never written to Jeremy.  I think the case has holes and there has been some unfairness, but at the end of the day Jeremy is a convicted murderer and I except that.  But, I also think he might not have done it. 

[John]

Just explain why I'm wrong. What's it got to do with you or anyone else what my view is.? Believe me,I'm NOT out of my depth at all. Who are you to judge ??

You are totally besotted with the idea that Jerry might be innocent but the bad news for you is he isn't!

[John]

I don't think another appeal will be accepted, do you John? CCRC seemed pretty clear on that.

Not a hope in hell.  There is no new evidence, just a load more revolving mirrors.  Even Simon Hall and Adrian Prout did the decent thing in the end and admit their guilt, let's hope Jerry will have the guts to do so some day too.

[lookout]

Somehow I don't think even you are so naive as to believe there will ever be another appeal let alone any referral by the CCRC.   I can understand you trying to save face lookout but lets face it, this case is effectively over.  The evidence is overwhelming!

What evidence,John. ?

[John]

What evidence,John. ?

I rest my case!   
 

[Patti]

Not a hope in hell.  There is no new evidence, just a load more revolving mirrors.  Even Simon Hall and Adrian Prout did the decent thing in the end and admit their guilt, let's hope Jerry will have the guts to do so some day too.

I must admit that I think there wont be any new evidence to support a new submission or even a change in law.

If there is any new evidence then we wont be privy to it, for there has been a blanket cover on reporting on it at the moment. What that is all about I have no idea. 

I have heard something on the grapevine that is very damning to the case, but I can't comment on that and only a handful of people have this information. 

[lookout]

You are totally besotted with the idea that Jerry might be innocent but the bad news for you is he isn't!

Where does " besotted " come into it ?  I just think that a guy has been wrongly convicted. Anything wrong in that ? Provide me with some concrete evidence as well as proof,that Jeremy is the " murderer ".