Russia - worrying?

[Roch]

Ask Marjorie Greene or George Galloway.

You don't seem to like Galloway because he speaks the truth about apartheid in Israel / Palestine. And because he gave it to US senators, both barrels, regarding the invasion of Iraq. Probably one of the greatest speeches ever filmed.

[David1819]

You don't seem to like Galloway because he speaks the truth about apartheid in Israel / Palestine. And because he gave it to US senators, both barrels, regarding the invasion of Iraq. Probably one of the greatest speeches ever filmed.

I am told by several I don't like so and so because they "speak the truth". 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3VgQDULX84

[ngb1066]

You don't seem to like Galloway because he speaks the truth about apartheid in Israel / Palestine. And because he gave it to US senators, both barrels, regarding the invasion of Iraq. Probably one of the greatest speeches ever filmed.

I agree.

[Roch]

I am told by several I don't like so and so because they "speak the truth". 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3VgQDULX84

Uday's and his father's position were cemented with the help of the US, who used Ba'athist Iraq as a bulwark against Iran.

[lookout]

I was on an American forum-cum-chat news last night and they were all against the leaders ( presidents ) that they had and have presently got. It was discussing the 4th of July shootings in Chicago yesterday and I said that the shooter was bound to have been Mexican-----well I think he is !.
Why do leaders have to continually interfere where it's got nothing to do with them ?

[lookout]

Blair interfered in Iraq and look what's happened since ? Terrorist attacks galore !

[David1819]

Uday's and his father's position were cemented with the help of the US, who used Ba'athist Iraq as a bulwark against Iran.

Saddam came to power through his own machiavellian backstabbing and purges. Uday was POS because his father let him get away with it.

[gringo]

I am told by several I don't like so and so because they "speak the truth". 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3VgQDULX84

   You are in denial about increased US/UK NATO aggression of the last 3 decades and refuse to see, speak or hear of any truth that exposes the genocidal nature of the wars waged by these entities in the name of "Freedom and democracy" or their self appointed "Responsibility to Protect".
    The cognitive dissonance is too much for you to deal with. Continued denial of western crimes will be impossible soon even for you. Increasing clampdowns, shortages, inflation are awakening the previously comfortable and complacent populations of the West. The supposed "leaders" of the Western bloc are cornered and clueless. The funding of more weapons and men to be sent into the meat grinder of Ukraine and relentless artillery strikes will do nothing to prevent the defeat that marks the end of US/UK/NATO hegemony. 
    Here is the last paragraph of the essay "End for The Empire of Lies" written three months ago. It is becoming obvious to all now that there is much more than Russia fighting Ukraine going on.


Russia, China and the multipolar world order have won, the Great Resetters have been reset. It will take time for the aftermath and consequences of the overturning of the western system to fully unravel but there can be little doubt that western financial power and sanctions regimes are being rendered null and void by the moves in currency and commodity trading backed by China/Russia. Western military might has been exposed as incapable of taking on anything other than small weak defenceless countries(and still get beat).
     The propaganda arm (the media) having to work overtime to hide the failures mentioned above and as a consequence, merely helping along their own discrediting amongst even the usually unquestioning. Like the boy who cried wolf, in the end everyone just assumes he is lying. Our media have cried wolf way too often and shown too few wolves to be believed. People who usually ask no questions, suddenly are. As the moves in the world financial system start to impact more and more people's everyday lives then even more will ask questions. The usual lies will not pass muster at this point.
     The old World Order is dead/dying. Exposed as pirates and thieves to the rest of the world. Goodbye Empire of Lies.
     

    The world is uniting to end NATO hegemony. The how is spelt out in the Empire of Lies thread here;

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11205.0.html
   
     Everything I wrote 3 months ago is unfolding at an accelerating pace. There is a new multipolar world order emerging. Western hegemony, theft and piracy is being dismantled. The tide of history can't be ignored away with copium.

[David1819]

   You are in denial about increased US/UK NATO aggression of the last 3 decades and refuse to see, speak or hear of any truth that exposes the genocidal nature of the wars waged by these entities in the name of "Freedom and democracy" or their self appointed "Responsibility to Protect".
    The cognitive dissonance is too much for you to deal with. Continued denial of western crimes will be impossible soon even for you. Increasing clampdowns, shortages, inflation are awakening the previously comfortable and complacent populations of the West. The supposed "leaders" of the Western bloc are cornered and clueless. The funding of more weapons and men to be sent into the meat grinder of Ukraine and relentless artillery strikes will do nothing to prevent the defeat that marks the end of US/UK/NATO hegemony. 
    Here is the last paragraph of the essay "End for The Empire of Lies" written three months ago. It is becoming obvious to all now that there is much more than Russia fighting Ukraine going on.


Russia, China and the multipolar world order have won, the Great Resetters have been reset. It will take time for the aftermath and consequences of the overturning of the western system to fully unravel but there can be little doubt that western financial power and sanctions regimes are being rendered null and void by the moves in currency and commodity trading backed by China/Russia. Western military might has been exposed as incapable of taking on anything other than small weak defenceless countries(and still get beat).
     The propaganda arm (the media) having to work overtime to hide the failures mentioned above and as a consequence, merely helping along their own discrediting amongst even the usually unquestioning. Like the boy who cried wolf, in the end everyone just assumes he is lying. Our media have cried wolf way too often and shown too few wolves to be believed. People who usually ask no questions, suddenly are. As the moves in the world financial system start to impact more and more people's everyday lives then even more will ask questions. The usual lies will not pass muster at this point.
     The old World Order is dead/dying. Exposed as pirates and thieves to the rest of the world. Goodbye Empire of Lies.
     

    The world is uniting to end NATO hegemony. The how is spelt out in the Empire of Lies thread here;

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11205.0.html
   
     Everything I wrote 3 months ago is unfolding at an accelerating pace. There is a new multipolar world order emerging. Western hegemony, theft and piracy is being dismantled. The tide of history can't be ignored away with copium.

And what else is happening on planet Gringo?

[gringo]

     It is also clear that the slow grinding pace of the Russian advances suits Russia just fine. It is the western countries pouring in arms and aid who are suffering after their idiotic and backfiring sanctions. Most of the world are ignoring illegal western sanctions and trading with Russia. The Rouble is stronger than ever, Russian income from gas and oil booming because of the increased prices caused by self defeating Western actions.
     The longer it takes is just more pain for the west. Russia is taking minimal losses while the Ukrainian army is being ground up by relentless artillery and taking huge losses. NATO are powerless to do anything about it. The vast majority of the world cheering on the Fall of Empire.
     Some years back, on this thread, Russian military tech and the effect on modern warfare was discussed. It was apparent then and is being demonstrated now that missile technology, electronic warfare advances and air and missile defence systems way in advance of anything the US/UK NATO possess would and have nullified NATO power. Some dismissed it as propaganda or something.
     NATO are only good for bullying weak defenceless countries. They have no answer to strong air defence and missile tech. NATO aircraft carriers and air power are rendered useless by a few thousand dollars missile. I said this years ago. It is unarguable now. NATO will be forced to draw down around the world, it is just a matter of time. So many bases will become(have become) indefensible.
     The longer the Ukraine war carries on, the more pain will be felt in the western countries sponsoring the whole shit-show. Inflation rocketing, fuel and energy prices rocketing. Blaming Russia and Putin for everything is wearing thin even amongst the apathetic now.
     Who believes that this ends any other way than when Russia says so? Ukraine will be left a land locked rump state at best. The entire Black Sea coast will be taken. NATO missile bases in Romania and Poland will be removed voluntarily or otherwise. The proposals put forward by Russia in December but ignored by NATO will be implemented in full. Who will stop it?
     
     
     
     

[ILB]

You cannot take on the world

[gringo]

You cannot take on the world

   Unclear what you mean by this?
     If you are suggesting that Russia is "taking on the world" then you could not be more wrong. Russia is taking on NATO. Russia has most of the world with it.
     NATO on the other hand has been "taking on the world" for decades. Now that NATO has bitten off more than it can chew by provoking Russia, the rest of the world tired of living under Western NATO rules, invasions, piracy and theft are behind Russia.
     Your observation is correct but it is NATO who are being shown that they indeed cannot take on the world.

[David1819]

     It is also clear that the slow grinding pace of the Russian advances suits Russia just fine. It is the western countries pouring in arms and aid who are suffering after their idiotic and backfiring sanctions. Most of the world are ignoring illegal western sanctions and trading with Russia. The Rouble is stronger than ever, Russian income from gas and oil booming because of the increased prices caused by self defeating Western actions.
     The longer it takes is just more pain for the west. Russia is taking minimal losses while the Ukrainian army is being ground up by relentless artillery and taking huge losses. NATO are powerless to do anything about it. The vast majority of the world cheering on the Fall of Empire.
     Some years back, on this thread, Russian military tech and the effect on modern warfare was discussed. It was apparent then and is being demonstrated now that missile technology, electronic warfare advances and air and missile defence systems way in advance of anything the US/UK NATO possess would and have nullified NATO power. Some dismissed it as propaganda or something.
     NATO are only good for bullying weak defenceless countries. They have no answer to strong air defence and missile tech. NATO aircraft carriers and air power are rendered useless by a few thousand dollars missile. I said this years ago. It is unarguable now. NATO will be forced to draw down around the world, it is just a matter of time. So many bases will become(have become) indefensible.
     The longer the Ukraine war carries on, the more pain will be felt in the western countries sponsoring the whole shit-show. Inflation rocketing, fuel and energy prices rocketing. Blaming Russia and Putin for everything is wearing thin even amongst the apathetic now.
     Who believes that this ends any other way than when Russia says so? Ukraine will be left a land locked rump state at best. The entire Black Sea coast will be taken. NATO missile bases in Romania and Poland will be removed voluntarily or otherwise. The proposals put forward by Russia in December but ignored by NATO will be implemented in full. Who will stop it?
     
     
     
   

What utter fantasy.  Russian losses are so horrific they are resorting to recruiting their prison population.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/05/23/russia-scrambles-for-soldiers-amid-ukraine-war-manpower-shortage-a77750

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/05/russian-prisons-corporations-recruit-ukraine-volunteers-reports-a78206


Since the paleo-conservative creationist blog (the blogmire) no longer posts anything about Russia. Your primary source of events is an alcoholics forum.

[David1819]

   Unclear what you mean by this?
     If you are suggesting that Russia is "taking on the world" then you could not be more wrong. Russia is taking on NATO. Russia has most of the world with it.
     NATO on the other hand has been "taking on the world" for decades. Now that NATO has bitten off more than it can chew by provoking Russia, the rest of the world tired of living under Western NATO rules, invasions, piracy and theft are behind Russia.
     Your observation is correct but it is NATO who are being shown that they indeed cannot take on the world.

The only countries behind Russia are North Korea, Syria, Belarus and Eritrea. 

[ILB]

   Unclear what you mean by this?
     If you are suggesting that Russia is "taking on the world" then you could not be more wrong. Russia is taking on NATO. Russia has most of the world with it.
     NATO on the other hand has been "taking on the world" for decades. Now that NATO has bitten off more than it can chew by provoking Russia, the rest of the world tired of living under Western NATO rules, invasions, piracy and theft are behind Russia.
     Your observation is correct but it is NATO who are being shown that they indeed cannot take on the world.

Well then I'd have to ask you this. What country comes after Ukraine to the west?

What do you think the ultimate agenda Putin has?