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Offline Roch

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1035 on: March 07, 2022, 04:11:PM »
What are the Ukrainian civilian casualties so far? I expect they are high. The latest figure I saw was 360. We are approaching the two week stage.

In 2003, it is estimated that during Shock and Awe, 7,185 Iraqi civilians were killed in the first two months.

How can what Putin is doing be classed as war crimes when civilians are killed, but for Bush and Blair, it is not classed as war crimes? In the case of Blair, he even receives a knighthood. What does that say regarding the honesty of how conflicts are presented to us?
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« Reply #1036 on: March 07, 2022, 04:26:PM »
Closer to home can anyone tell me how Gavin Williamson received a kinghthood after his shambles in the education sector during Covid ? Exams in chaos, failure to supply laptops during school lockdowns to those children who were struggling to learn. He was an absolute disgrace.
It would seem that knight-hoods are dished out to those who've failed !! 

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« Reply #1037 on: March 07, 2022, 04:54:PM »
All casualties on both sides could have been prevented by US and NATO. Instead, the US and NATO would rather see the casualties happen.

Your head is so far up Putins arse. Todays breakfast was yesterdays beef stroganoff.

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« Reply #1038 on: March 07, 2022, 05:12:PM »

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« Reply #1039 on: March 07, 2022, 05:20:PM »
According to Reuters latest estimate. There have been at least 9000 deaths and 1700 buildings destroyed.

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1040 on: March 07, 2022, 05:43:PM »
International court of justice to fast-track ruling on Russian invasion

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/07/international-court-of-justice-to-fast-track-ruling-on-russian-invasion-of-ukraine

Pity they couldn't do that for all the dead Iraqi civilians. But the good ole' US of A doesn't accept it should ever be accountable. And with it being the most powerful nation in the world, nobody is willing or able to rectify that.

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« Reply #1041 on: March 07, 2022, 06:24:PM »
Pity they couldn't do that for all the dead Iraqi civilians. But the good ole' US of A doesn't accept it should ever be accountable. And with it being the most powerful nation in the world, nobody is willing or able to rectify that.

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Firstly, the Iraq invasion was not in violation of international law since it was in a conditional cease-fire agreement from the gulf war.

Secondly, the predominantly Kurdish/Shia government of Iraq would never have brought any complaints to the international court since they supported the invasion and wanted Saddam and his mainly Sunni regime gone.
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« Reply #1042 on: March 07, 2022, 06:30:PM »
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Firstly, the Iraq invasion was not in violation of international law since it was in a conditional cease-fire agreement from the gulf war.

Secondly, the predominantly Kurdish/Shia government of Iraq would never have brought any complaints to the international court since they supported the invasion and wanted Saddam and his mainly Sunni regime gone.

So you can just write-off the deaths of over 7000 Iraqi civilians in the first two months of Shock and Awe.

USA does what it wants, when it wants, with no consequences.

Have you found that map of US / NATO bases yet?

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« Reply #1043 on: March 07, 2022, 06:40:PM »
So you can just write-off the deaths of over 7000 Iraqi civilians in the first two months of Shock and Awe.

USA does what it wants, when it wants, with no consequences.

Have you found that map of US / NATO bases yet?

Where are you getting 7000 from? The figure is 3,750

http://www.comw.org/pda/0310rm8.html

What has a map of Nato or bases got to do with anything?

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« Reply #1044 on: March 07, 2022, 07:21:PM »
Where are you getting 7000 from? The figure is 3,750

http://www.comw.org/pda/0310rm8.html

What has a map of Nato or bases got to do with anything?

I got the figure from this site: https://insight.livestories.com/s/v2/five-facts-civilian-deaths-in-iraq/4911d75d-bcef-410d-9f80-547aec168616/

Use your head regards bases.

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« Reply #1045 on: March 07, 2022, 07:34:PM »
Use your head regards bases.

Thanks to Putin's recent actions, there will soon be NATO bases in not only Ukraine but Sweden, Finland and Moldova also.

The only American base you should concern yourself with, is the one on Roswell New Mexico.
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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1046 on: March 07, 2022, 08:29:PM »
Thanks to Putin's recent actions, there will soon be NATO bases in not only Ukraine but Sweden, Finland and Moldova also.

The only American base you should concern yourself with, is the one on Roswell New Mexico.

OK David..

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f/understanding-conflict-ukraine-and-perspectives-anti-war-movement

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1047 on: March 07, 2022, 08:58:PM »
Is this the same woman ... Again?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1048 on: March 07, 2022, 10:24:PM »
All those poor people fleeing Ukraine should have got on a boat to Dover----they'd have all been allowed into the country ! I'm disgusted with the UK !!

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1049 on: March 08, 2022, 01:28:AM »