Russia - worrying?

[David1819]

The war in Iraq deeply damaged the reputations of the US and UK.

Even though some countries who took part were members of NATO, the war was not sanctioned by NATO.

The war was not sanctioned by the UN.

The war was deeply unpopular across the world.

The justification for the war was based on lies.

The UK expert who questioned the accuracy of intelligence 'committed suicide'. A finding that was backed by your old friend, Peter Vanezis, suprise, suprise.

After, issuing bullying ultimatums, the US was assisted by lapdogs.

It was a war of plunder, in which US corporations will no doubt have benefited.

Ill disciplined security contractors added to the carnage.

The power vacuum that was created after the initial victory, facilitated mass murder and mayhem.

The  US was involved in torture and extraditions.

In short, The US is in a somewhat dubious position, if it tries to take the moral high ground with Russia.

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[David1819]

Watching Putins latest speech, he seems to have lost it.

[Bubo bubo]

Watching Putins latest speech, he seems to have lost it.

How prescient that the UK Defence  Secretary said yesterday  'It looks as if he's gone full Tonto'

[Roch]

How prescient that the UK Defence  Secretary said yesterday  'It looks as if he's gone full Tonto'

I was surprised the woke brigade didn't jump on that. He will get cancelled.

[lookout]

Mad as a hatter !

The skies seem to be " busy " here with high-up jets over the river. Probably RAF Valley Anglesey exercising/ training. Won't go down well with the Russian Navy off the Irish coast. They are in an area where all communications can be severed between USA and Europe----from underwater cables.

[David1819]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t08sgh/the_first_invaders_are_already_in_hell/


I am waiting for Gringos rant on how this is all CIA propaganda.

[nugnug]

i will ae gringothe troule its all ia propogana.

[nugnug]

https://youtu.be/hCE_O0HSSk8

[Roch]

Lavrov is giving a withering speech on BBC1 now. He has certainly not lost his marbles.

[ngb1066]

The war in Iraq deeply damaged the reputations of the US and UK.

Even though some countries who took part were members of NATO, the war was not sanctioned by NATO.

The war was not sanctioned by the UN.

The war was deeply unpopular across the world.

The justification for the war was based on lies.

The UK expert who questioned the accuracy of intelligence 'committed suicide'. A finding that was backed by your old friend, Peter Vanezis, suprise, suprise.

After, issuing bullying ultimatums, the US was assisted by lapdogs.

It was a war of plunder, in which US corporations will no doubt have benefited.

Ill disciplined security contractors added to the carnage.

The power vacuum that was created after the initial victory, facilitated mass murder and mayhem.

The  US was involved in torture and extraditions.

In short, The US is in a somewhat dubious position, if it tries to take the moral high ground with Russia.

A very good post Roch.  I agree with you.

 

[David1819]

So far 450 Russian soldiers have died.

[Roch]

So far 450 Russian soldiers have died.

If the figure is accurate, what a stupid waste of life. That would be an extremely high casualty rate for Russia.

[lookout]

A very good post Roch.  I agree with you.

I too agree and condemned the war in Iraq right from the start.

[killingeve]

The war in Iraq deeply damaged the reputations of the US and UK.

Even though some countries who took part were members of NATO, the war was not sanctioned by NATO.

The war was not sanctioned by the UN.

The war was deeply unpopular across the world.

The justification for the war was based on lies.

The UK expert who questioned the accuracy of intelligence 'committed suicide'. A finding that was backed by your old friend, Peter Vanezis, suprise, suprise.

After, issuing bullying ultimatums, the US was assisted by lapdogs.

It was a war of plunder, in which US corporations will no doubt have benefited.

Ill disciplined security contractors added to the carnage.

The power vacuum that was created after the initial victory, facilitated mass murder and mayhem.

The  US was involved in torture and extraditions.

In short, The US is in a somewhat dubious position, if it tries to take the moral high ground with Russia.

Prof Vanezis didn't carry out the post-mortem.  It was carried out by Dr Nicholas Hunt.  Both agreed along with others:

The forensic pathologist who examined Kelly's body, Dr Nicholas Hunt, gave the formal cause of death as: "Haemorrhage due to incised wounds of the left wrist", in conjunction with "Coproxamol ingestion and coronary artery atherosclerosis".

Professor Peter Vanezis, senior consultant in forensic medicine to the armed forces, said: "These people are more clinicians and are obviously surprised that a person can kill themselves like that."Vanezis also said the lack of large amounts of blood in the wood where Kelly was discovered could also be easily explained: "It was outside, it could have gone into the soil."

Dr Andrew Davison, a forensic pathologist with Cardiff university agreed: "You only have so much blood going around, if you have a heart condition you can't afford to lose as much blood as a healthy person."

Professor Derrick Pounder, head of forensic medicine and forensic pathologist at the university of Dundee said: "It may be that there are several factors in a death. In this case, we know he had taken more than a therapeutic dose of drugs, and that he had some pre-existing heart disease.We have three factors in the death that are known to the public. The cause of death is likely an interplay between the three."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/aug/16/david-kelly-inquest-hutton-inquiry

Are they all part of your conspiracy theories?

[Roch]

Prof Vanezis didn't carry out the post-mortem.  It was carried out by Dr Nicholas Hunt.  Both agreed along with others:

The forensic pathologist who examined Kelly's body, Dr Nicholas Hunt, gave the formal cause of death as: "Haemorrhage due to incised wounds of the left wrist", in conjunction with "Coproxamol ingestion and coronary artery atherosclerosis".

Professor Peter Vanezis, senior consultant in forensic medicine to the armed forces, said: "These people are more clinicians and are obviously surprised that a person can kill themselves like that."Vanezis also said the lack of large amounts of blood in the wood where Kelly was discovered could also be easily explained: "It was outside, it could have gone into the soil."

Dr Andrew Davison, a forensic pathologist with Cardiff university agreed: "You only have so much blood going around, if you have a heart condition you can't afford to lose as much blood as a healthy person."

Professor Derrick Pounder, head of forensic medicine and forensic pathologist at the university of Dundee said: "It may be that there are several factors in a death. In this case, we know he had taken more than a therapeutic dose of drugs, and that he had some pre-existing heart disease.We have three factors in the death that are known to the public. The cause of death is likely an interplay between the three."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/aug/16/david-kelly-inquest-hutton-inquiry

Are they all part of your conspiracy theories?

I haven't outlined a conspiracy theory. But do you honestly believe a British pathologist would conclude that it was murder dressed as suicide, given the implications that it would imply a state sanctioned murder?