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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #255 on: March 21, 2015, 09:01:PM »
  The media are just making trouble, Alias. The reports a few days ago were talking about Putin even though he had said nothing, nor been seen. It is almost as if the media have an agenda at the moment. Whatever Putin does or even doesn't say is reported as news and people are being propagandised to see Russia and Putin as the enemy when really the enemies are much closer to home.
     It is Russia and Putin who have done the most to avoid conflict and there is much more to the whole story than is being told by western media at the moment. The facts do speak for themselves, and when you take away all the opinion and comment, US/UK, NATO aggression is the threat, not Russian aggression.
      Have a quick search on US NATO first use policy and you will find that they have always refused to sign up to a no first use(NFS) policy. Russia also have dropped this pledge in 1993. The reports about what  Putin allegedly said is nothing more than hot air. We have the same policy and therefore you could equally credibly report that the US/UK haven't ruled out using nuclear weapons. It is not a story, it's propaganda.
     The facts on the ground are that US has by some distance more armed forces in other countries than any other nation.I would confidently hazard that it has dropped more bombs since WW2 than the rest of the world combined. The bombing campaign in the Vietnam war accounted for a massive 7.6 million tons of ordnance being dropped. To put some context on this figure, it is three times the total amount of ordnance dropped during the entire second world war.
      Only one country ever in the history of the world has used a nuclear bomb( not once but twice) and that country is obviously the US.
      The invasions, wars and bombing campaigns of recent years have all been initiated by US/UK and have caused an untold number of deaths(murders), horrific injuries, millions of refugees and terrorists running amok in the Middle East. The US with it's dreams of world domination based on the belief of "American exceptionalism" has created chaos the world over and are self evidently the worlds biggest threat.
      The US/UK, NATO and EU are interfering and fomenting unrest in Ukraine and have been from the beginning. The anti Putin propaganda from the media and government became hysterical some time ago and we really should be asking far more searching questions of our own leaders, especially after Afghanistan and Iraq, rather than swallowing whatever is fed us as truth.
      If we didn't know before Iraq that our governments were willing to lie to launch an aggressive war and if we were still unaware that our media were incapable/unwilling to ask the questions that we expect from an effective and honest media, surely we know now.
       Putin is not a threat to world peace, US/UK, NATO are.
       Why else would the US need to spend 640 billion dollars compared to Russias 90 billion if not for aggression. If Russia really want to act aggressively on the world stage they need to up their arms spending.
     

No, the Russian ambassador in Denmark actually said that it wouldn´t be impossible that Russia would nuke us. He doesn´t just go out and say something like that on his own.
The Danish foreign minister is out reacting to this - he is not the media.


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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #257 on: April 09, 2015, 08:04:PM »
at the end amerca cant even bring democracy to amerca the idea they can bring it to anywhere else is laughable.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democracynow.org%2F2008%2F10%2F9%2Fgreg_palast_on_vote_rigging_and&ei=RMImVZ3vE8bxUu_rgagN&usg=AFQjCNFFfLqnhw1uw82ekzbJ3VflzkzVRQ&sig2=lP7k0wVsdias8ZShjGmtxA&bvm=bv.90491159,d.d24

It is all about power, but they (we) call it "bringing democracy".
That said, somehow I feel better about "our side" having the power, we might lose it soon enough.

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #258 on: May 31, 2015, 12:03:AM »
If the Nazis had taken Russia  its almost certain I may not be here now, one Golden rule stick to it and live don't mess with Russia  , remember and remember well in Earths history to the last 30 seconds only the USA have used nuclear weapons in a war Russia have launched none.

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #259 on: May 31, 2015, 12:52:AM »
If the Nazis had taken Russia  its almost certain I may not be here now, one Golden rule stick to it and live don't mess with Russia  , remember and remember well in Earths history to the last 30 seconds only the USA have used nuclear weapons in a war Russia have launched none.

Yet.
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #260 on: May 31, 2015, 10:47:AM »
It's our support for the Ukraine which is the stumbling block now. I wish this country would keep out of the politics,etc of other countries and at least learn lessons from past UNNECESSARY wars such as Iraq and Afghanistan.Where did that get us ? Stop sending funds abroad,as invariably they end up in the hands of corrupt governments and terrorists. Will this country ever learn ?

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #261 on: June 04, 2015, 01:51:AM »
Yet.
Let´s give them the benefit of the doubt - personally I like that better than suspicion in advance. In gereral in all aspects of life.
Personally I am more scared of ISIS who have no values it seems. Thugs, we need to stop that.

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« Reply #262 on: June 19, 2015, 10:10:PM »
here is a good documentary on Russian soldiers In Ukraine.

Selfie Soldiers: Russia Checks in to Ukraine
"As the conflict in Ukraine continues, so too does Russian President Vladimir Putin’s denial of any Russian involvement. But a recent report from think tank the Atlantic Council used open source information and social media to find evidence of Russian troops across the border"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zssIFN2mso

Also a Russian state news channel said they could turn the USA into 'Radioactive Ash'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkMT_oLempE

Still got your head buried in the sand Gringo?  ::)


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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #263 on: June 21, 2015, 10:13:AM »
Putin the windbag. Looking somewhat puffy around the gills lately.

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #264 on: June 23, 2015, 08:27:PM »
here is a good documentary on Russian soldiers In Ukraine.

Selfie Soldiers: Russia Checks in to Ukraine
"As the conflict in Ukraine continues, so too does Russian President Vladimir Putin’s denial of any Russian involvement. But a recent report from think tank the Atlantic Council used open source information and social media to find evidence of Russian troops across the border"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zssIFN2mso

Also a Russian state news channel said they could turn the USA into 'Radioactive Ash'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkMT_oLempE

Still got your head buried in the sand Gringo?  ::)
  If you rely on sources like this in order to form your judgement on geopolitical matters then it is no surprise that you are so ill informed.
     In fact the comments about the first video are more illuminating than the video itself. You're not very good at this are you? Your arguments have so far consisted of nothing more than posting links to dubious videos which you appear to take as undisputed truth without questioning obvious things first, like the source for starters. Can't you form your own opinion?

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« Reply #265 on: June 24, 2015, 07:03:PM »
  If you rely on sources like this in order to form your judgement on geopolitical matters then it is no surprise that you are so ill informed.
     In fact the comments about the first video are more illuminating than the video itself. You're not very good at this are you? Your arguments have so far consisted of nothing more than posting links to dubious videos which you appear to take as undisputed truth without questioning obvious things first, like the source for starters. Can't you form your own opinion?


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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #266 on: July 19, 2015, 10:25:PM »
Let´s give them the benefit of the doubt - personally I like that better than suspicion in advance. In gereral in all aspects of life.
Personally I am more scared of ISIS who have no values it seems. Thugs, we need to stop that.
IS  are going to be wiped out soon including women and children blitzed in heavy air attacks , that's what war is one dirty mess, Russia  need to be loked at  but no more one day you might need them , should IS bring war to their soil expect Russia to begin carpet bombing without any NATO or UN clearance, likewise Israel  they will remove countries if need be Israel  have more bomb shelters than anyone else.

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #267 on: July 20, 2015, 12:26:AM »
IS  are going to be wiped out soon including women and children blitzed in heavy air attacks , that's what war is one dirty mess, Russia  need to be loked at  but no more one day you might need them , should IS bring war to their soil expect Russia to begin carpet bombing without any NATO or UN clearance, likewise Israel  they will remove countries if need be Israel  have more bomb shelters than anyone else.

They will have to put troops on the ground to get rid of ISIS. strategic bombing can only soften a target

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #268 on: July 20, 2015, 09:56:PM »
They will have to put troops on the ground to get rid of ISIS. strategic bombing can only soften a target
There are other ways  some very dirty  mainly  ensure all drinking water is contaminated, destroy all food supplies destroy hospitals and schools, training camps, destroy the oilfield they have encircle and wait for them to starve to death,

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #269 on: August 18, 2015, 05:16:PM »
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