Producing evidence that the intelligence communities were wrong doesn't in any way establish Bush lied.
You are the one lying by trying to pretend that the World's intelligence agencies didn't judge what they did and instead pretending Bush simply made it up.
You also lied about the polls regarding the attitudes of the people of Iraq. I post how the people of Iraq support deposing Saddam. A majority of Iraqis support such even though the transition has been rough just like the transition from Socialism to Capitalism in the Iron curtain was rough but deemed worth it. Instead of being honest and producing the results of such polls you resort to polls of whether their life is hard and try to pretend that such polls mean that Iraqis didn't want Saddam overthrown. You are biased and dishonest.
You already have little credibility but you further diminish any chance of having any when you praise Russian aggression and misrepresent Russian invasions of other countries as reasonable self-defense actions. Invading Georgia and Ukraine wasn't self-defense. Invading a country to annex ports is not reasonable self-defense actions. If it is then that means the US can invade any country it desires to steal ports for our vessels.
You are an apologist for Russian aggression and ridiculously attack the US as being an aggressor. You have things completely backwards and remind me of the Marxist apologists during the Cold War who loved the USSR and defended everything it did while trashing the West and Capitalism.
indeed a great number of people like you tried suggesting ISIS wasn't so bad and the West was intentionally distorting about them in order to justify invading sovereign nations. ISIS is running wild trying to wipe out the non-Muslim populations of the land they occupy, brutalizing any Muslims who stand up to them and destroying historic treasures. They are barbarians the World was not making up things to justify taking action. Despite these real horrors the World is not taking action in earnest because the leaders of the World don't care enough to do what is necessary.
Everybody knows that the US and UK governments lied to go to war. To misrepresent this as intelligence failures is mendacious. The number of intelligence agents who have spoken since and at the time make it quite clear that the politicians deliberately exaggerated the intelligence. They asked for intelligence that would justify war. Any following of these events at the time made clear that the US was pushing for war at the UN. It wasn't other countries that had hundreds of thousands of troops massed ready to invade and bomb Iraq before war had supposedly been decided upon.
Were the US military there just in case? or do you think that they were going to war whatever the world thought? The US were wrong to invade Iraq and this is not even disputed by anyone informed.
To claim that the Russians are the aggressors on the world stage is ignoring the evidence in front of you.
You are self evidently a war apologist and your understanding of the Ukraine conflict has clearly been fed to you by the US State Dept. You may be stupid enough to believe in US exceptionalism but the rest of us see the US as world bullies. The reason that they can act in this way on the world stage is because there are enough gullible, brainwashed and half informed voters to allow it. You are obviously among their number.
Your attacks are so ridiculous that you have to put words into my mouth by claiming that I am an ISIS apologist. The wars that you support created ISIS. Without the Iraq invasion, the bombing of Libya and the US funding of Islamist rebels in Syria ISIS would not even exist. US interventions cause far more harm than good and the evidence for this is all around.
Regarding the polls, I put forward to you a number of facts which you have just ignored. I know that it is because those truths are uncomfortable for you and that you have no reply so you just fall back on your usual tactic when faced with uncomfortable truths by resorting to ad hom attacks and calling people liars. Tell me where I lied about the polls. The ones you posted were carried out by demonstrably biased parties and if you dispute my findings then do so with your own evidence to refute what I said. If you cannot do so don't worry you can just call me a liar without actually bothering to point out any lies.
I may have little credibility with you but that is to be expected with someone like you and I would have more cause to be concerned if you regarded me credible. Your arrogance in believing that you are the final word on each and every subject is staggering to behold, especially from someone so ill informed.
I watched Fox News last night for an hour or so(I know!!) and the bias and hysteria is a sight to behold and then it occurred to me that it was like listening to the News by Scip
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The views on Iran and the Middle East in general are so lacking in balance and nuance that they are beyond satire.
Your views are Iraq, Iran, Russia etc. are shared by a small minority of the world and most of those are American Republican supporters. The rest of the world view the US as the number 1 threat to world peace.
Do yourself a favour and do a search on " biggest threat to world peace poll" if you disbelieve me or think I am lying. I did that search and lots of polls came up and they were consistent in their findings. There are lots to choose from and the polling took place over lots of countries.
Who do you think the world views as the biggest threat then Scip? Could it be Russia or perhaps Iran?
Funnily enough they were not even close so you have much work to do. The biggest threat by a considerable margin was the US so it appears that the world is full of people with little credibility who are biased and dishonest. Either that or horror of horrors you are a self aggrandising half informed war apologist. Even in America the US tied for third place with North Korea as biggest threat to world peace.
Your on the wrong side of the argument scip, but that's nothing new to you
