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Offline susan

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Re: submit questions for the Essex Police Challenge
« Reply #630 on: March 12, 2015, 07:28:PM »
David I am sure if Jeremy Bamber was released after serving nearly 30 years in prison he would not be in a hurry to go back by murdering his cousins I think they would be safe not sure their possessions would be though.  Not sure how the compensation would stand guess it would be a large amount if the law permits it.

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Re: submit questions for the Essex Police Challenge
« Reply #631 on: March 12, 2015, 07:31:PM »
lookout meant to ask did Eddie get any compensation?

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Re: submit questions for the Essex Police Challenge
« Reply #632 on: March 12, 2015, 07:43:PM »
No Susan. No compensation. The case isn't ended.

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« Reply #633 on: March 12, 2015, 07:47:PM »
As a matter of interest,I take it that you're all 100% sure of Jeremy's guilt ? Yes ?

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Re: submit questions for the Essex Police Challenge
« Reply #634 on: March 12, 2015, 07:48:PM »

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« Reply #635 on: March 12, 2015, 07:51:PM »
Exactly - fairy dust!!

You can take two meanings out of that Caroline  :D

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« Reply #636 on: March 12, 2015, 07:58:PM »
I am confident that he would Petey.  The silencer evidence was one of the two central planks of the prosecution case, and was undoubtedly the most important issue in the case.  If this is discredited the Court of Appeal would be bound to conclude that the convistion is unsafe.  There is no way they could say that this was not something which influenced the jury.

Wishful thinking perhaps?   In any event that will never happen as it would have taken a right dimwit to interfere with an investigation involving five murders. 
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Re: submit questions for the Essex Police Challenge
« Reply #637 on: March 12, 2015, 08:15:PM »
Scip why make up such nonsense? That is the third time this week you have made blatantly false claims about the moderator. If you want to convince people of Jeremy's guilt making stuff up is not going to do you any favours

Third time?  Your accusations fell apart completely with respect to both of your prior allegations and fail now as well.  Just as I stated Fletcher testified that the only way for blood to get in the moderator was via drawback or intentional planting not accidental contamination.  The blood was distributed in the moderator as I suggested.  I noted correctly the removal of the visible blood by the lab and microscopic blood by the defense expert.  You made the ludicrous suggestion that Lincoln stated the blood he found was transferred by the lab as they swabbed it when he clearly suggested the blood he found is what they missed while swabbing it.  The one not doing himself any favors is you in continuing to pretend I was wrong.

I didn't make up anything with respect to the DNA either.  There were enough markers to know Sheila's DNA was found in 5 of the samples. The Court of Appeals was willing to spot the defense on the issue because it made no difference whether it was Sheila's or not since the DNA wasn't blood based and thus the Court accepted the defense claim that maybe it was Sheila's maybe it wasn't and then proceeded to say even if the defense claims are taken as true it proves nothing and doesn't refute the evidence used at trial.

There were 10 areas of the moderator tested the baffles in 3 different batches labeled A, B and C and then 7 other areas.

"Since the CCRC referred this case to the court, further DNA testing has taken place of other parts of the moderator. Seven swabbings have been taken from internal parts of the moderator apart from the baffles. All seven results indicated that DNA from more than one person was present. The results were complex and incomplete and it was not possible to determine how many people had contributed to the DNA from the mixture. The predominant contribution appeared to have come from a female or females.

When comparisons were possible, components matching Sheila Caffell's DNA profile were detected in five of these seven results. The other two results also contained components which matched those of Sheila Caffell, but not at all of the ten areas of DNA tested where information was available for comparison. Some of the components detected did not match the profile of Sheila Caffell or the Caffell twins."

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2002/2912.html

Note "or the Caffell twins which was the court's way of indicating it was being suggested that the DNA that didn't match Sheila's completely was from one or both of the twins. Sheila and one or both of the twins were the major contributors in all 7 samples. There was at least 1 minor contributor in each of these 7 samples but no way to tell if the minor contributor in each sample was the same person or a different person.



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Re: submit questions for the Essex Police Challenge
« Reply #638 on: March 12, 2015, 11:47:PM »
I was being thick and have just understood your meaning.  :-[

Inadvertently,  was in reference to Adams post and not yours. Adam inadvertently made a good point.

It had nothing to do with your point. :D

It did though - Adam was referring to something I had said, it was my point, not Adam´s.  ;)

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« Reply #639 on: March 12, 2015, 11:53:PM »
It did though - Adam was referring to something I had said, it was my point, not Adam´s.  ;)

Lol okay. I was referring to Adams post, I hadn't even seen what you had posted.

In any event, I meant nothing by it, certainly not against you.

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« Reply #640 on: March 13, 2015, 12:38:AM »
Lol okay. I was referring to Adams post, I hadn't even seen what you had posted.

In any event, I meant nothing by it, certainly not against you.

Thanks for that.

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Re: submit questions for the Essex Police Challenge
« Reply #641 on: March 13, 2015, 01:22:AM »
You can take two meanings out of that Caroline  :D

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Re: submit questions for the Essex Police Challenge
« Reply #642 on: March 15, 2015, 11:19:AM »
After my acknowledged e-mail to EP,I received another one saying that it was forwarded to the operational division of EP. Early days yet. ;D

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Re: submit questions for the Essex Police Challenge
« Reply #643 on: March 24, 2015, 11:39:AM »
As expected,I haven't heard a word as yet. ::) I wonder why ?

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Re: submit questions for the Essex Police Challenge
« Reply #644 on: March 24, 2015, 11:45:AM »
At least Jeremy acknowledges letters,questions,etc !

I actually asked EP how they came to their conclusion on it being 4 murders and a suicide,as well as information pertaining to that. Also what  exactly was it that changed their minds to murder.

Simple enough questions.