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[guest154]

Not to mention the fact that had a policeman received such a call I think he would have remembered it.

Yup! No reason why the officer wouldn't have mentioned it to Bamber at the scene or in the days after.

[Caroline]

To be perfectly honest,I can't think of anything worse than being innocent,and having no proof of your innocence. It sucks.

No, genuine miscarriages of justice are terrible but they usually find something to prove innocence. The rest clutch at straws shouting 'what about this?' every few years. 

[Caroline]

Yup! No reason why the officer wouldn't have mentioned it to Bamber at the scene or in the days after.

It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

[guest154]

It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

It is.

[John]

Exactly just what " adequate " evidence was provided by EP to the case ? Think about it. Most of their findings from the morning of the 7th was stashed away never to be seen again,whereby it WOULD have been of assistance to Jeremy's defence team. Was that a fair advantage to the case ? Certainly not.

What of all the character references.? What happened to those ? Are they hidden away,or burned ? Just because of the sheer bias of opinion that Freddie was a foreigner,an ex-girlfriend,Suzie was a divorced mother who Jeremy lived with and Collins a homosexual. It WOULDN'T be permitted today. Not PC.!
These people had been classed as unsuitable !! Was this fair ?

Yet word was accepted from those who DIDN'T know Jeremy or his immediate family. How very convenient. Was this fair ?

More fantasy's lookout?  If such material was locked away you wouldn't know about it.  Truth is the only material kept under PII relates to the conduct of certain idiotic junior police officers at the scene AFTER the event, some of which is already known.

What references would you like?  The guy in Scotland he sent cannabis to or some of his other weed burner pals?

[Jane]

To be perfectly honest,I can't think of anything worse than being innocent,and having no proof of your innocence. It sucks.

But a message passed from one person to another in which there is an age and relationship discrepancy re the subject (Sheila) is NOT proof of Jeremy's innocence, but seems to be the core of your argument.

[John]

No, genuine miscarriages of justice are terrible but they usually find something to prove innocence. The rest clutch at straws shouting 'what about this?' every few years. 

You will find that every claimed miscarriage of justice case contains anomalies of some sort where the evidence and facts do not match up exactly with the Crown's case.

In this case however there are no such anomalies, the evidence of which there is oodles matches the 'Jeremy did it' theory perfectly.

Even Mike Tesko has never once been able to produce the slightest evidence that Jeremy is innocent of the five murders and that alone tells its own story.

[Caroline]

More fantasy's lookout?  If such material was locked away you wouldn't know about it.  Truth is the only material kept under PII relates to the conduct of certain idiotic junior police officers at the scene AFTER the event, some of which is already known.

What references would you like?  The guy in Scotland he sent cannabis to or some of his other weed burner pals?

Jeremy said he now has all the PII stuff so not sure why people are still using that argument? 

[John]

Jeremy said he now has all the PII stuff so not sure why people are still using that argument? 

I don't believe him Caroline. There is material which the police will never hand over and rightly so. Bambers former lawyer, more recently a CCRC commissioner, would have seen this material and decided it was irrelevant to the case.

[guest154]

Jeremy said he now has all the PII stuff so not sure why people are still using that argument? 

Because it sounds good, it's an argument that can be hidden behind because there is no answer to it.

Evidence HIDDEN under PII.
NEW promising evidence.
A phonecall from Ralph.
Itemised billing.
NEW evidence about Sheila's past medical history.

It all SOUNDS good. It brings supporters aboard because it sounds promising and surely HAS to be true! But it's fallen apart time and again. It says a lot when the arguements REPEATEDLY used by supporters and the campaign team - aren't even in the Bamber legal appeals.... I find that mind blowing & very, very telling.

[Caroline]

Because it sounds good, it's an argument that can be hidden behind because there is no answer to it.

Evidence HIDDEN under PII.
NEW promising evidence.
A phonecall from Ralph.
Itemised billing.
NEW evidence about Sheila's past medical history.

It all SOUNDS good. It brings supporters aboard because it sounds promising and surely HAS to be true! But it's fallen apart time and again. It says a lot when the arguements REPEATEDLY used by supporters and the campaign team - aren't even in the Bamber legal appeals.... I find that mind blowing & very, very telling.

Not to me, it sounded like a dead end.

[guest154]

Not to me, it sounded like a dead end.

But your well versed in the case,  to an outsider its enough to ring alarm bells.

[Caroline]

I don't believe him Caroline.

Well, perhaps he told me that and is telling others something else. Wouldn't surprise me.

[lookout]

You will find that every claimed miscarriage of justice case contains anomalies of some sort where the evidence and facts do not match up exactly with the Crown's case.

In this case however there are no such anomalies, the evidence of which there is oodles matches the 'Jeremy did it' theory perfectly.

Even Mike Tesko has never once been able to produce the slightest evidence that Jeremy is innocent of the five murders and that alone tells its own story.

How is anyone supposed to produce any evidence at all when they're innocent ? It's impossible !

[Caroline]

But your well versed in the case,  to an outsider its enough to ring alarm bells.

Yeah, I suppose so - it all adds to the 'mystery' or conspiracy (BS).