Bambers Application for Prerogative of Pardon 2005

[Jan]

The evidence demonstrates otherwise.  The time of night for instance and being attacked in their beds is indicative of planning.  Had Sheila had an episode it would have been during the day when she was interacting with people not waking up after 3 hours of sleep and attacking people in bed.

But more than just the time of night there is evidence establishing Sheila didn't kill anyone else or herself.  You ignore that evidence but it doesn't make it go away it just means you live in a world of denial.

How do you know she even went to sleep ? That is just biased assumption on your part.

[Alias]

In Colins book I would say she comes across as being very insecure .

She does, very much so.

[Jan]

It is a dreadful illness but it can be controlled with drugs however, as we know even today the drugs nearly always cause side effects which isn't a pleasant way to have to live.
It's true violent anger is a symptom of uncontrolled schizophrenia, although some schizophrenics are given to extreme violence and others never hurt anyone but themselves.  For many the symptoms subside as a sufferers grows older, what they used to call 'burned out', even dangerous PS sufferers could become calm with age.
I cannot understand how schizophrenics who commit crimes while suffering a psychotic episode are held responsible for their crimes.  It's a tragedy for all concerned imo.

Extremely hard for the families as well .

[David1819]

And calls it "evidence". HAHAHA

HE is ignoring that Sheila´s neighbours at Maida Vale told about wailing and going ons from her flat in the very early hours of the morning aka night.
Guess he chooses to live in a world of denial.

It was only Yesterday he learned you could access the office in WHF via the staircase opposite the bathroom, first claiming you could only get inside through the kitchen!

so much for following the facts 

[Caroline]

And calls it "evidence". HAHAHA

HE is ignoring that Sheila´s neighbours at Maida Vale told about wailing and going ons from her flat in the very early hours of the morning aka night.
Guess he chooses to live in a world of denial.

Do we have their statements? I haven't seen them.

[guest2181]

It was only Yesterday he learned you could access the office in WHF via the staircase opposite the bathroom, first claiming you could only get inside through the kitchen!

so much for following the facts 

Which staircase do you mean?

[Caroline]

It was only Yesterday he learned you could access the office in WHF via the staircase opposite the bathroom, first claiming you could only get inside through the kitchen!

so much for following the facts 

The door at the top of that staircase was locked.

[David1819]

Which staircase do you mean?

I believe the one that has the gun cupboard underneath it.

The door at the top of that staircase was locked.

Beside the point it still exists. There are three stairways all together so several possiabilities

[Alias]

Do we have their statements? I haven't seen them.

Does Skippy have the evidence of Sheila necessarily having a fit during the day rather than the night?

[guest2181]

I believe the one that has the gun cupboard underneath it.

Oh okay, that isn't opposite the bathroom though.

The staircase opposite the bathroom leads to the kitchen.

The stair over the gun cupboard leads from the hall/utility directly inside the back door where the raid team entered.

[guest2181]

Does Skippy have the evidence of Sheila necessarily having a fit during the day rather than the night?

Who cares. That doesn't answer Caroline's enquiry.

I haven't seen said statements either, and that makes me dubious as to there existence,  but I'lI keep an open mind.

[David1819]

Oh okay, that isn't opposite the bathroom though.

The staircase opposite the bathroom leads to the kitchen.

The stair over the gun cupboard leads from the hall/utility directly inside the back door where the raid team entered.

I'm only going by the diagrams in the library.

[Alias]

Who cares. That doesn't answer Caroline's enquiry.

I haven't seen said statements either, and that makes me dubious as to there existence,  but I'lI keep an open mind.

The point was he called it evidence.

[guest2181]

I'm only going by the diagrams in the library.

Perhaps your description is wayward, or I have misinterpreted you.

I can assure you that what I described above is accurate.

[guest2181]

The point was he called it evidence.

Fair enough, maybe there are two seperate 'points' being offered.