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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #90 on: April 16, 2011, 06:21:PM »
Did Jeremy go out and shoot rabbits?
Or did he just hear rabbits, loaded the gun, then changed his mind about going outside?
Or did he just load the gun to leave it around?
I can´t help thinking that he wasn´t too lazy to load the gun, but too lazy to put it in the cupboard.
I can´t help thinking further that if he was behind the shootings, he wouldn´t have had to make that story about the loaded rifle up. There were a lot of accessible firearms in the house in any case.
If he did it, he might have left the gun on the settle for his own/a hitman´s convenience; but there wouldn´t have been any reason to talk about it to the police, would there?

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #91 on: April 16, 2011, 06:25:PM »
Did Jeremy go out and shoot rabbits?
Or did he just hear rabbits, loaded the gun, then changed his mind about going outside?
Or did he just load the gun to leave it around?
I can´t help thinking that he wasn´t too lazy to load the gun, but too lazy to put it in the cupboard.
I can´t help thinking further that if he was behind the shootings, he wouldn´t have had to make that story about the loaded rifle up. There were a lot of accessible firearms in the house in any case.
If he did it, he might have left the gun on the settle for his own/a hitman´s convenience; but there wouldn´t have been any reason to talk about it to the police, would there?

The thought of them leaving loaded guns lying around a house with 6 year-old playing horrifies me.

I seems that this practice didn't change when the boys were there or is that another old wives tale?

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #92 on: April 16, 2011, 06:25:PM »
I presume Jeremy was at the house that night. June didn't mention to her sister that he'd been there. Did someone hear him drive away?

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #93 on: April 16, 2011, 06:34:PM »
yes a neighbour heard him drive away

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #94 on: April 16, 2011, 06:41:PM »
Why did he have June's bicycle at the cottage anyway??

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #95 on: April 16, 2011, 06:48:PM »
it was at jbs place because june had lent it to julie to use

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #96 on: April 16, 2011, 07:04:PM »
If the bike was used and the route is thought to be along the seawall, doesn't it take you right through another farmers yard?
I've walked the seawall from Goldhanger and i'm sure theres a farm between WHF and the seawall.   
I know there is another route but that would take you past the cottages.

I've read somewhere it was an old shopper bike, hardly a great escape option for a quick getaway.

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #97 on: April 16, 2011, 07:05:PM »
it was a sit up and beg type bike

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #98 on: April 16, 2011, 09:14:PM »
It may be a mistake to concentrate on one gun, and where Jeremy left it, in my opinion, since if two or more different weapons were used during the incident, it matters just as much where these other weapons had been left, was placed in storage at the scene?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #99 on: April 16, 2011, 09:32:PM »
If the bike was used and the route is thought to be along the seawall, doesn't it take you right through another farmers yard?
I've walked the seawall from Goldhanger and i'm sure theres a farm between WHF and the seawall.   
I know there is another route but that would take you past the cottages.

I've read somewhere it was an old shopper bike, hardly a great escape option for a quick getaway.

Andrea's right, it was a sit up and beg, bone shaker of a bike.

In my opinion, there is no way on God's earth that anyone could have cycled the sea wall path on that old bone shaker or any other bike.

Remember Gen, the sea wall path as it is now is nothing like it was during the 1980s. The sea wall and path have been radically improved since then in order to comply with Health & Safety requirements.

Around 25 years ago, that path was narrower and crumbling, the path went right up to the very edge of the sea wall in places, where it crumbled away. There were highly dangerous rocks below. I have old photographs of the sea wall and path which show this I've tried to post these here but the site will not accept my scans for some reason.

It would have been far too risky to cycle that highly precarious route in pitch black darkness or even in daylight. Anyone who took that risk is likely to have ended up on the rocks below.

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #100 on: April 16, 2011, 09:32:PM »
It may be a mistake to concentrate on one gun, and where Jeremy left it, in my opinion, since if two or more different weapons were used during the incident, it matters just as much where these other weapons had been left, was placed in storage at the scene?

There's no doubt that the Anshutz was involved though, and I think it's important to know where Jeremy said he left it. Do you know where he left it?

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #101 on: April 16, 2011, 09:34:PM »
i thought he left in on the settle

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #102 on: April 16, 2011, 09:43:PM »
It may be a mistake to concentrate on one gun, and where Jeremy left it, in my opinion, since if two or more different weapons were used during the incident, it matters just as much where these other weapons had been left, was placed in storage at the scene?

There's no doubt that the Anshutz was involved though, and I think it's important to know where Jeremy said he left it. Do you know where he left it?
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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #103 on: April 16, 2011, 09:46:PM »
If the bike was used and the route is thought to be along the seawall, doesn't it take you right through another farmers yard?
I've walked the seawall from Goldhanger and i'm sure theres a farm between WHF and the seawall.   
I know there is another route but that would take you past the cottages.

I've read somewhere it was an old shopper bike, hardly a great escape option for a quick getaway.

Andrea's right, it was a sit up and beg, bone shaker of a bike.

In my opinion, there is no way on God's earth that anyone could have cycled the sea wall path on that old bone shaker or any other bike.

Remember Gen, the sea wall path as it is now is nothing like it was during the 1980s. The sea wall and path have been radically improved since then in order to comply with Health & Safety requirements.

Around 25 years ago, that path was narrower and crumbling, the path went right up to the very edge of the sea wall in places, where it crumbled away. There were highly dangerous rocks below. I have old photographs of the sea wall and path which show this I've tried to post these here but the site will not accept my scans for some reason.

It would have been far too risky to cycle that highly precarious route in pitch black darkness or even in daylight. Anyone who took that risk is likely to have ended up on the rocks below.


My thoughts exactly  :)

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Re: Where Jeremy said he left the gun
« Reply #104 on: April 16, 2011, 09:46:PM »
where mike?