From Julie Mugford's statements to her 'compelling evidence'

[Jackiepreece]

Sandy its the same old story pot  kettle


Sheila wasnt sedated when she frightened the meter man

As you know all about Sheila could you post copies of her medical notes it might help us make up our mind if jb is guilty

You must have some compelling hidden evidence

I bet the ccrc are waiting with bated breath

[sandy]

Sandy its the same old story pot  kettle


Sheila wasnt sedated when she frightened the meter man

As you know all about Sheila could you post copies of her medical notes it might help us make up our mind if jb is guilty

You must have some compelling hidden evidence

I bet the ccrc are waiting with bated breath

I have no need for medical notes to know that Sheila was on as it is all there but you choose to ignore the facts since you are obviously be-smitten by everything Jeremy.

Analysis of samples of Sheila’s blood and urine taken during the post mortem examination indicated that she had consumed cannabis some days before her death and she had made therapeutic use of the prescribed anti-psychotic drug, haloperidol.

Read and learn dear!

[Jackiepreece]

Can you not call me dear it is really pissing me off now it might be alright for the people you mix with but i am not your dear

Every bloody time I back someone in to a corner the person in question says i am just saying things in defence of JB because i am smitten with him

You dont know me and you are once again jumping on the bandwagon of i am only helping someone because i fancy them

When I get time i am going to list everyone that has said that it is hilarious

Dont be a wanker Sandy just answer the questions

[sandy]

Hit a nerve have we Jackie dear??   

[Jackiepreece]

No Sandy I havent hit a nerve if I fancied JB or was in a relationship with him i would quite happily shout it from the rooftops why wouldnt I because I think he is innocent

I definately would not hide it

[smiffy]

I have noticed sandy's evasiveness and refusal to answer simple questions.
In my view it shows a weakness in the arguments or claims he wishes to make.

hmm I have found the word "compelling" is far to frequently used in courts to make the flimsiest  and weakest and unreliable and credible claims seem better than they really are.

I am satisfied that JM's evidence is heavily fabricated and has little credibility and virtually no reliabity.


People can accept or reject anyones evidence in part or in total.
Just because a witness lies in some parts of their evidence does not mean it all should be automatically rejected as some of the things they say may be true.

[Roch]

The reason why I used 'compelling' in this thread was because I have read on several occasions that people who were in court found her testimony compelling.  No response from Mike about the statements prior to the trial so it looks like he can't post them. 

[Kaldin]

Reading about JM's testemony
http://www.homepage-link.to/JUSTICE/judgements/Bamber/index.html
section 107,
She states that Jeremy told her that there was a bit of a problem with Neville putting up a fight and that Shiela had been told to lie down and shoot herself last. Strangely, no mention of the difficulties with the silencer. Since according to JM, Jeremy had no problem confessing to her all the details, why would he leave out the crucial part when he realised Shiela couldn't reach the trigger with the silencer attached? Plus why would he say the bible was on her chest when the photos show it on the floor next to her??

If anyone reading this was told by someone to lie down and shoot yourself how many would do it?

If she had just seen the slaughter of her family, especually her children she may of just wanted to die.

She'd be more likely to want to kill the murderer I would have thought.

[sandy]

The reason why I used 'compelling' in this thread was because I have read on several occasions that people who were in court found her testimony compelling.  No response from Mike about the statements prior to the trial so it looks like he can't post them.

No he can't post them or a copy of Jeremy's evidence in chief as such does not exist apparently. 

[smiffy]

Rochford Sheilds posted;

The reason why I used 'compelling' in this thread was because I have read on several occasions that people who were in court found her testimony compelling.  No response from Mike about the statements prior to the trial so it looks like he can't post them. 

I was not having a go at yourself for the title of the thread Rochford. In fact your highlighting of "compelling evidence" itself shows a belief that it may be as compelling as it was made out to be.

Your answer of reading about people in court finding her evidence compelling appears more to be from  journalistic sources or similar rather than from the horses mouth. 

From the knowledge of JM's evidence that I am aware of I cannot possibly form the view of it being compelling towards JB's guilt..but find convincing of JM's deceptive nature and unreliablity and credibility.

[sandy]

The reason why I used 'compelling' in this thread was because I have read on several occasions that people who were in court found her testimony compelling.  No response from Mike about the statements prior to the trial so it looks like he can't post them.

She indeed, Julie Mugfords evidence was checked out in as much as it could be before the trial and police were quite certain that her testimony was true and accurate.

[Roch]

The reason why I used 'compelling' in this thread was because I have read on several occasions that people who were in court found her testimony compelling.  No response from Mike about the statements prior to the trial so it looks like he can't post them.

She indeed, Julie Mugfords evidence was checked out in as much as it could be before the trial and police were quite certain that her testimony was true and accurate.

After 30 odd attempts I would hope so.

[sandy]

I think you will find that the statements were taken in order to be absolutely sure that Julie knew what she was talking about. Better to take 30 than to take one or two if the information is so crucial that a man's life depended upon it validity.

Full marks to Julie for telling it as it was, I am quite sure that the whole ordeal haunts her to this very day.

[Jackiepreece]

I bet it haunts Colin as well the sight of two faced lieing mugford standing next to him at the funeral

I would love to know what Colin would feel like if her met her now especially knowing about her blood money


Sandy what do you thinks Colin feels about mugford and the fact she made money out of talking about his dead children

Do you think Colin would give her full marks Sandy

Keep coming out with rubbish like that the Wanker label will stick

You sound almost proud of her like a proud mother or father

[sandy]

I bet it haunts Colin as well the sight of two faced lieing mugford standing next to him at the funeral

I would love to know what Colin would feel like if her met her now especially knowing about her blood money


Sandy what do you thinks Colin feels about mugford and the fact she made money out of talking about his dead children

Do you think Colin would give her full marks Sandy

Keep coming out with rubbish like that the Wanker label will stick

You sound almost proud of her like a proud mother or father

She reminds me of you Jackie, all hot air!!   

What's wrong Jackie, did Jeremy not reply??