Photographic still image taken from crime scene video - The shocking truth...

[mike tesko]

She also left a box of nine tampons, and an empty tampon holder, in the living room, as a marker. The pathologist who carried out Sheila's autopsy confirmed that she was in the early stages of her monthly period. She had a tampon vaginally inserted, confirming that Sheila had been downstairs at the time she was caught short. We also know that Sheila did not go to bed that last night because her bed had not been slept in. So, she must have been up and about all night long...

[Alias]

The placement of the buckets in the kitchen is strange.
There was a scullery right beside the kitchen, why weren´t they there? Any sensible person would have used the scullery for washing clothes - that´s what it´s there for.
Kitchen had a carpet. Putting buckets of water with dirty clothes there seems very odd. Especially with two six-year olds running around.
Dirty, bloodied clothes close to where you prepare food and food utensils is also very odd.
Would June have thought it a natural thing for Sheila to have her menstrual-blood-soaked panties in the kitchen?

[mike tesko]

Marks found on her right forearm and the region of her right wrist/hand, is evidence that she struggled with somebody prior to her death. Similarly, gouge marks found to be present on Ralph's forearm, confirming that he had been scratched by an attacker with long fingernails, or he had been prodded by the end of the rifles batrel minus the silencer...

[Alias]

Marks found on her right forearm and the region of her right wrist/hand, is evidence that she struggled with somebody prior to her death. Similarly, gouge marks found to be present on Ralph's forearm, confirming that he had been scratched by an attacker with long fingernails, or he had been prodded by the end of the rifles batrel minus the silencer...

Personally I think Sheila sat (or stood, probably sat) still for those blood streams to form on her lower right arm. I am almost sure of it, but would love to have a couple of blood pattern experts to look at it.
I also don´t believe that fingernails made the marks on Nevill´s arm, but rather, as you say, the end of a barrel. I think they look too large for fingernails to have made them. You can also see marks that didn´t break the skin - he was most likely beaten with the barrel.

[scipio_usmc]

Personally I think Sheila sat (or stood, probably sat) still for those blood streams to form on her lower right arm. I am almost sure of it, but would love to have a couple of blood pattern experts to look at it.
I also don´t believe that fingernails made the marks on Nevill´s arm, but rather, as you say, the end of a barrel. I think they look too large for fingernails to have made them. You can also see marks that didn´t break the skin - he was most likely beaten with the barrel.

The experts have already spoken, if she was standing then some blood would have dripped down the front of her gown. The only blood that dripped on her gown was the blood that leaked out of her neck onto her shoulder area while she was seated. There was no other blood that dripped onto her.  There was no other blood on her gown period except the blood she transferred with her wrist/palm.  There was not a drop of blood anywhere else on her gown. 

The gouges on Nevill's arm were caused by the butt of the stock.   The corner of the stock has an angle which causes gouges in things. The black strip along the back is metal so that is a metal corner not wood.  It causes lateral scrapes the same width as the buttplate if it doesn't dig in too deep and just brushes across the skin but when it digs in it causes gouges.

Vanezis stupidly suggested maybe the barrel was swung like a baseball bat (or stick) to cause the lateral marks.  The pattern left by a smooth barrel swung like a bat is much different than the lateral abrasions that were on Nevill. If Vanezis were more familiar with weapons and how they are wielded including how they are used to strike humans when he would have been better able to assess how it was used.  His lack of understanding about weapons doesn't excuse his lapse though because he had a medical reason to recognize the butt was used.  He assessed that the blood got on the stock by it hitting areas of Nevill's skin that were bloody so he noted indications that the stock was used to beat Nevill and that spatter was projected back onto the stock of the rifle.  That being the case he should have tried assessing what damage the stock of the rifle would do to Nevill but for some reason he failed to do so. 

 

[Jan]

The experts have already spoken, if she was standing then some blood would have dripped down the front of her gown. The only blood that dripped on her gown was the blood that leaked out of her neck onto her shoulder area while she was seated. There was no other blood that dripped onto her.  There was no other blood on her gown period except the blood she transferred with her wrist/palm.  There was not a drop of blood anywhere else on her gown. 

The gouges on Nevill's arm were caused by the butt of the stock.   The corner of the stock has an angle which causes gouges in things. The black strip along the back is metal so that is a metal corner not wood.  It causes lateral scrapes the same width as the buttplate if it doesn't dig in too deep and just brushes across the skin but when it digs in it causes gouges.

Vanezis stupidly suggested maybe the barrel was swung like a baseball bat (or stick) to cause the lateral marks.  The pattern left by a smooth barrel swung like a bat is much different than the lateral abrasions that were on Nevill. If Vanezis were more familiar with weapons and how they are wielded including how they are used to strike humans when he would have been better able to assess how it was used.  His lack of understanding about weapons doesn't excuse his lapse though because he had a medical reason to recognize the butt was used.  He assessed that the blood got on the stock by it hitting areas of Nevill's skin that were bloody so he noted indications that the stock was used to beat Nevill and that spatter was projected back onto the stock of the rifle.  That being the case he should have tried assessing what damage the stock of the rifle would do to Nevill but for some reason he failed to do so.

if she was seated - how do you suggest Jeremy shot her - what angle was he at to get both shots in the  direction  you have indicated in previous posts and why did she not do an automatic reflex of putting her hands up to stop the assault .

draw us a sketch.

[Alias]

if she was seated - how do you suggest Jeremy shot her - what angle was he at to get both shots in the  direction  you have indicated in previous posts and why did she not do an automatic reflex of putting her hands up to stop the assault .

draw us a sketch.

Skipster has already tried to explain this - unsuccessfully as far as I am concerned.

[Jan]

Skipster has already tried to explain this - unsuccessfully as far as I am concerned.

oh no - I must have missed that. Probably in the middle of a very long post

I am sure he wont mind doing it again.

[Alias]

oh no - I must have missed that. Probably in the middle of a very long post

I am sure he wont mind doing it again.

It is a fact of the case that is conveniently ignored by the guilter side. No one has been able to explain in which position Jeremy was when he shot Sheila.

[Jan]

It is a fact of the case that is conveniently ignored by the guilter side. No one has been able to explain in which position Jeremy was when he shot Sheila.

and the bullet case under the bed has to be explained as well

Do you find it a bit odd that there is no blood on the cabinet behind her?

I know it was a contact shot - but  the blood surely must come out of the wound as well?

[Alias]

and the bullet case under the bed has to be explained as well

Do you find it a bit odd that there is no blood on the cabinet behind her?

I know it was a contact shot - but  the blood surely must come out of the wound as well?

Jan, not sure what you mean - the bullets didn´t penetrate the skull at the back of her head.
Maybe I am being daft, but I don´t know what you mean here.

[scipio_usmc]

if she was seated - how do you suggest Jeremy shot her - what angle was he at to get both shots in the  direction  you have indicated in previous posts and why did she not do an automatic reflex of putting her hands up to stop the assault .

draw us a sketch.

The first shot was virtually level which means the gun was nearly at a perfect 90 degree angle to her neck.  That alone is evidence she can't have shot herself because it would require her to have monkey arms. He put the gun at nearly a 90 degree angle at her neck and fired.

The second shot he shoved the gun under her chin and pushed her head back as far as it would go. With her head pushed back the angle at which he held the gun when he shot wasn't that steep. 

[Jan]

Jan, not sure what you mean - the bullets didn´t penetrate the skull at the back of her head.
Maybe I am being daft, but I don´t know what you mean here.

no I understand that but I just wondered if any blood would have come from the wounds and travelled behind her head.

[Jan]

The first shot was virtually level which means the gun was nearly at a perfect 90 degree angle to her neck.  That alone is evidence she can't have shot herself because it would require her to have monkey arms. He put the gun at nearly a 90 degree angle at her neck and fired.

The second shot he shoved the gun under her chin and pushed her head back as far as it would go. With her head pushed back the angle at which he held the gun when he shot wasn't that steep.

there were documented tests done that show that a woman of her size could shoot herself - that was by the police themselves I have seen it on here.

So she is sitting

What position is Jeremy in?

Why is she just allowing him to do that?

[lookout]

Jeremy would have been crawling along on his belly like a Commando with the trigger of the rifle up his left nostril.

Just as if !