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Offline mike tesko

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Thank you Mike :) As I experience it:-

A. The (visible) woman in the still image from video is NEITHER Sheila nor June and it ISN'T the Bamber bedroom.
B. I'm as certain as is possible that THIS is Sheila.
C. If this is Sheila, the nightdress is entirely different  in colour/style from the one worn in B.

This, of course, is only MY opinion. Others, undoubtedly, will see it differently.

The female in (a) is either, Sheila or June Bamber, and it cannot be said with certainty that the footage in question was not taken inside the main bedroom. It may have been taken in another room altogether, a room yet to be identified. the female shown in (b) is Sheila, and the female shown in (c) is Sheila. I beg to differ regarding your suggestion that the colour and style of the nightdress as shown in images (b) and (c) are different. They might appear to be so, because of the angle both views were taken from, and the quality of reproducing a still image from video footage, in one instance, as opposed to a photograph taken by a camera, in the other..,
« Last Edit: February 02, 2015, 10:39:AM by mike tesko »
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Offline Jane

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The female in (a) is either, Sheila or June Bamber, and it cannot be said with certainty that the footage in question was not taken inside the main bedroom. It may have been taken in another room altogether, a room yet to be identified. the female shown in (b) is Sheila, and the female shown in (c) is Sheila. I beg to differ regarding your suggestion that the colour and style of the nightdress as shown in images (b) and (c) are different. They might appear to be so, because of the angle both views were taken from, and the quality of reproducing a still image from video footage, in one instance, as opposed to a photograph taken by a camera, in the other..,


Mike, I wouldn't like to guarantee that your view of A. would stand up in a court of law against someone qualified in cranial/facial anatomy/trichology. I would have to state, categorically, that I believe it to be NEITHER. I have to say also that I believe it CAN be said, with certainty that the Bambers would NOT have had modern MFI type furniture in the same room as Queen Anne style, but I'm not saying, even though, looking at all the other furniture, I feel it unlikely, they wouldn't have had it in another room..........................which begs the question of how and WHY were two dead/SEMI dead women transported from one room to another. Regarding the nightdress. In the picture I believe to be of Sheila, it is blue with a flat Peter Pan collar -as noted in listed items- in the other picture it appears to be cream/ivory with a pie crust frilled neckline, but as you say, THIS could be the angle at which the picture was taken. I look forward to hearing what others think.

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The female in (a) is either, Sheila or June Bamber, and it cannot be said with certainty that the footage in question was not taken inside the main bedroom. It may have been taken in another room altogether, a room yet to be identified. the female shown in (b) is Sheila, and the female shown in (c) is Sheila. I beg to differ regarding your suggestion that the colour and style of the nightdress as shown in images (b) and (c) are different. They might appear to be so, because of the angle both views were taken from, and the quality of reproducing a still image from video footage, in one instance, as opposed to a photograph taken by a camera, in the other..,

You originally said that the bloodied picture (supposed to be Sheila) was taken after CPR, if this is true it had to happen just after discovery on the body. Her face isn't bloodied in the crime scene photograph taken by Bird - so who washed her face, how did blood then leak from her mouth again after death and the BIG question - why would anyone bother to hide the fact that they had tried to save her life?
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Offline mike tesko

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Mike, I wouldn't like to guarantee that your view of A. would stand up in a court of law against someone qualified in cranial/facial anatomy/trichology. I would have to state, categorically, that I believe it to be NEITHER. I have to say also that I believe it CAN be said, with certainty that the Bambers would NOT have had modern MFI type furniture in the same room as Queen Anne style, but I'm not saying, even though, looking at all the other furniture, I feel it unlikely, they wouldn't have had it in another room..........................which begs the question of how and WHY were two dead/SEMI dead women transported from one room to another. Regarding the nightdress. In the picture I believe to be of Sheila, it is blue with a flat Peter Pan collar -as noted in listed items- in the other picture it appears to be cream/ivory with a pie crust frilled neckline, but as you say, THIS could be the angle at which the picture was taken. I look forward to hearing what others think.

The female in image (a) is Sheila...

It is a still taken from video footage at the scene. I am not saying that this image was taken in the main bedroom. But it was footage taken at the scene, and I think the female in (a) is Sheila, identifiable by facial features, and same pearl earrings...

It is not for me to say where the two bodies were filmed, and how police moved them into their respective positions inside the main bedroom, at opposite ends of that room...
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You originally said that the bloodied picture (supposed to be Sheila) was taken after CPR, if this is true it had to happen just after discovery on the body. Her face isn't bloodied in the crime scene photograph taken by Bird - so who washed her face, how did blood then leak from her mouth again after death and the BIG question - why would anyone bother to hide the fact that they had tried to save her life?

The bloodied still photographic image (c) was taken after training officers conducted a reconstruction of the CPR, the image (a)   was taken before PC Bird took his photograph at (b)...

There is no mystery...
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The bloodied still photographic image (c) was taken after training officers conducted a reconstruction of the CPR, the image (a)   was taken before PC Bird took his photograph at (b)...

There is no mystery...

So who washed her face and why? There is no blood on her face on the later picture, just the blood trails from her mouth. Someone had to wash all that blood off her face - why would they?
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Also, Sheila had a mole just under her chin, there is no such mole on the picture above.
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So who washed her face and why? There is no blood on her face on the later picture, just the blood trails from her mouth. Someone had to wash all that blood off her face - why would they?

Nobody washed her face, you have got the image sequence wrong. First image in sequential order, is photograph (a) which shows a female with no blood at all on her face. Nobody had to wipe her face at this stage bevause if the female is Sheila she had not been shot under the chin by that stage. The next photograph (b) shows Sheila after she has been shot twice. In this image we can see blood has run from the corners of herouth, ran into her left eye socket,  and diagonally across her neck. This second image (b) is a natural progression from image (a) where no blood at all is visible on her face. So. Images (a) and (b) were taken and recorded in sequential order. The third image (c) was taken after PC Bird took image (b). Image (c)  was taken after firearms officers carried out a reenactment of CPR, which resulted in additional blood appearing upon the face and neck of Sheila...

There is noystery about the order these images were either filmed, or photographed...
« Last Edit: February 02, 2015, 12:20:PM by mike tesko »
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Nobody washed her face, you have got the image sequence wrong. First image in sequential order, is photograph (a) which shows a female with no blood at all on her face. Nobody had to wipe her face at this stage bevause if the female is Sheila she had not been shot under the cjin by that stage. The next photograph (b) shows Sheila after she has been shot twice. In this image we can see blood has run from the corners of herouth, ran into her left eye socket,  and diagonally across her neck. This second image (b) is a natural progression from image (a) where no blood at all is visible on her face. So. Images (a) and (b)...

The woman with no blood on her face (at all) is not Sheila. Perhaps you can post which images you are calling A and B in order of reference?

When are you suggesting the bloodied picture was taken? Before or after PC Bird took his pictures?

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Offline mike tesko

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The woman with no blood on her face (at all) is not Sheila. Perhaps you can post which images you are calling A and B in order of reference?

When are you suggesting the bloodied picture was taken? Before or after PC Bird took his pictures?

Refer reply 262 above...

Female with no blood on her face, is Sheila..

Female with additional blood on her face (c) was taken after the one (b) taken by PC Bird. Nobody had to wipe any blood off anybody elses face...
« Last Edit: February 02, 2015, 12:30:PM by mike tesko »
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The woman with no blood on her face (at all) is not Sheila. Perhaps you can post which images you are calling A and B in order of reference?

When are you suggesting the bloodied picture was taken? Before or after PC Bird took his pictures?




I'm sure that would be enormously helpful in clearing this up, Caroline. I agree ENTIRELY that the woman with no blood on her face is NOT Sheila.

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Are we sure this is not some kind of "still" from a tv film ? I am sort of  getting DEJA VU here?

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Are we sure this is not some kind of "still" from a tv film ? I am sort of  getting DEJA VU here?




Wherever they originated from, Jan, they're certainly not new. I'm certain I've seen them on here before.

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Refer reply 262 above...

Female with no blood on her face, is Sheila. ..

If you want to try and pass that off as Sheila, go ahead but it's not and everyone can see it's not. She is quite obviously an older lady. On this 'evidence' Jeremy will be going nowhere.
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Are we sure this is not some kind of "still" from a tv film ? I am sort of  getting DEJA VU here?

We certainly are sure.
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