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Offline mike tesko

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There is clearly two bodies on the floor close together in the following image:-
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This PARADOX has to be explained in the circumstances of the police investigation into the tragedy at whf. I believe that these images go a long way toward explaining what really did happen inside whf once firearms officers entered the scene at just after 7.30am...
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Mike, I have seen those pictures before, they are from a documentary.

I have seen them too - in a documentary. It is an "actress".

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There is clearly two bodies on the floor close together in the following image:-

because it's a scene from a documentary about the WHF murders.
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This PARADOX has to be explained in the circumstances of the police investigation into the tragedy at whf. I believe that these images go a long way toward explaining what really did happen inside whf once firearms officers entered the scene at just after 7.30am...

Now, depending upon the true identity of the female in that image was / is, it has a direct bearing on the contents of firearms officers witness statements, pocketbook entries and reports tended into evidence at various stages, where they all have described finding June Bambers body propped up against the bedroom door she having been shot between the eyes, well that can't have been true if the female in this photographic still is June Bamber...

Similarly, those very same firearms officers, and senior officers cannot be correct in saying or stating that when they entered the main bedroom that they found Sheila Caffell laid alongside the edge of the bed, shot twice in the neck, with the rifle resting upon her body, because if the female in the foreground was / is Sheila, then by that stage (when firearms officers first allegedly found Sheila) she had not yet been shot a second time - So, they have lied, and lied, and lied...

And then of course, irrespective of who the female in the foreground of the image was / is, a huge question then hangs over how the second body shown in the same footage, managed to get moved to the edge of the bed (if that body was Sheila), or to the door of the main bedroom (if it was June Bamber)?

Another PARADOX, which requires explanation...
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I agree that two of the photos are Sheila - or that is very likely. The "new" photo - which isn´t new, many of us have seen it before, of an older woman is from a documentary and is neither Sheila nor June.

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because it's a scene from a documentary about the WHF murders.

Which included photographic images taken from the video footage of the scene, faded in and out in the blink of an eye. This was no actress, it was a still image taken from real footage of the crime scene...
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I agree that two of the photos are Sheila - or that is very likely. The "new" photo - which isn´t new, many of us have seen it before, of an older woman is from a documentary and is neither Sheila nor June.

To be pondered then, if the female in the foreground is neither Sheila, nor June Bamber, then who was this female, name of actress, etc...

Was there a sixth victim at WHF that none of us have ever heard mention of? Could this have been why six body bags were requested to be brought to the crime scene?
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The reason for my absence from the forum recently involved meetings with people to try and determine whether or not the female in the foreground of one of the posted images, was / is Sheila, or not? Views have been expressed to the effect that the female in question is not Sheila, and that it is Sheila. If it is Sheila, then obviously she must have still been alive at the time the video footage was being taken, because as we have been told, it was the second shot which killed her (not the first one). How could Jeremy have killed his sister, if she was still alive inside the farmhouse and had not yet been shot fatally beneath the chin?
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The absence of a second shot in the neck of the female in the foreground, is consistent with DS Jones, and DC Clark, attending Jeremy's cottage that same morning and telling all and sundry that Sheila had only a solitary shot to her neck. It is also consistent with the police surgeon, Dr Craig, and PI Bob Miller, declaring that at 8.44am, when Sheila was examined by Craig and mistakenly pronounced as being dead, that both Craig and Miller, referred to Sheila as only having had one bullet wound to her neck...
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The absence of a second shot in the neck of the female in the foreground, is consistent with DS Jones, and DC Clark, attending Jeremy's cottage that same morning and telling all and sundry that Sheila had only a solitary shot to her neck. It is also consistent with the police surgeon, Dr Craig, and PI Bob Miller, declaring that at 8.44am, when Sheila was examined by Craig and mistakenly pronounced as being dead, that both Craig and Miller, referred to Sheila as only having had one bullet wound to her neck...

Lets face it, and be frank with one another, if Sheila had been shot twice in the neck by the stage Dr Craig examined Sheila's body at 8.44am, why did he only refer to her having been killed by a solitary shot to the neck? How could he possibly have known at that stage, if she had been already shot twice, whether or not only one of the two shots had killed her, or both of them? In my view, if she had already been shot twice by the time Craig and Miller came onto the scene (8.44am), you would not go on to declare that the victim was dead by way of a solitary shot to the neck, if there were two bullet holes in the neck...
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Sheila did not get shot on the second occasion until after 9am, so by the stage Craig and Miller arrived on the scene, Sheila had only been shot just the once, and if the truth be known, she was not yet dead despite Dr Craig declaring at 8.44am, that she was...
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The latest photographic still posted by me, lends support that at least one of the two female victims who died during the tragedy, must have still been alive by the stage when the crime scene video footage was being taken....
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The crime scene video footage was taken from 9am, onward, and I understand that four separate video cassettes were used up, during the filming of the training exercise, which commenced at around 9am, and did not conclude until 11.10am, that same morning. These video cassettes were retained locked away inside ACC Simpsons safe in his office, but were eventually handed over to the firearms department for use in training would be recruits...
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Mike, are you telling us that the police were responsible for shooting Sheila AND June?

I would like to think that what I am saying, is that clearly the police did shoot someone, and the information I have received is that they did shoot Sheila, they shot her in circumstances I have described elsewhere. But on the off chance that what I have been told is not entirely accurate, then and only then does the female in the foreground have to be June Bamber. In those circumstances, if it was then clearly June has not yet been shot between the eyes by that stage, and to all intents and purposes, June must have still been very much still alive after 9am, as indeed Sheila also must have been. Now, we know that the CCRC have got one of the crime scene video tapes, because Jeremy once told me they had it, but that he was not allowed to see its contents because it had very distressing scenes in it. Some of these scenes in that footage are understood to show the training officers using the bodies of the victims as props during the re-enactment of the raid. Some images and scenes staged during these training exercises amounted to abuse, and I understand that Jeremy complained about that / this, all to no avail...
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