Did Jeremy phone Witham police station ?

[Jan]

But are only sub police stations.

I also did show adam evidence that the officers at Witham had been out on another call during that night which COULD have explained why the phone was not answered , but of course he has chosen to ignore that.

[Adam]

I also did show adam evidence that the officers at Witham had been out on another call during that night which COULD have explained why the phone was not answered , but of course he has chosen to ignore that.

If you are going to contribute, can you not be abusive. Otherwise I will have to report you again.

Why would the man/men who answers the telephones at Witham have to leave the office ? His job is to be on the phone 100% of the time. There may be an important call !

Why do you think Bamber testified that he did not phone Witham ?

[Jane]

I also did show adam evidence that the officers at Witham had been out on another call during that night which COULD have explained why the phone was not answered , but of course he has chosen to ignore that.

Naturally

[Adam]

But are only sub police stations.

I have not been able to obtain any information on what UK police sub stations actually are. Or whether Tiptree and Maldon were sub stations.

How did Bamber know what stations would be open at 3am and what would not ?

[Jane]

If you are going to contribute, can you not be abusive. Otherwise I will have to report you again.

Why would the man/men who answers the telephones have to leave the office ? His job is to be on the phone 100% of the time. There may be an important call !

Why do you think Bamber testified that he did not phone Witham ?

A. There's nothing abusive about Jan's comment. Have you ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?

B. How many reasons do you want? Unlike poor Nevill was SAID to be, I doubt that he was tied to his chair.

C. You can always write to Jeremy and ask.

[Jan]

If you are going to contribute, can you not be abusive. Otherwise I will have to report you again.

Why would the man/men who answers the telephones at Witham have to leave the office ? His job is to be on the phone 100% of the time. There may be an important call !

Why do you think Bamber testified that he did not phone Witham ?

It was not abusive .Enlighten me and show me where he said he did not phone Witham .

[Adam]

A. There's nothing abusive about Jan's comment. Have you ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?

B. How many reasons do you want? Unlike poor Nevill was SAID to be, I doubt that he was tied to his chair.

C. You can always write to Jeremy and ask.

Tied to his chair. Who an earth has brought this up ?

I am not going to write to Bamber on this subject. As already mentioned on page 2.

Have you got any sources on sub stations and Tiptree and Malden. Where I live I would not have a clue about which of my four police stations are supposed sub stations.

[Jane]

I have not been able to obtain any information on what UK police sub stations actually are. Or whether Tiptree and Maldon were sub stations.

How did Bamber know what stations would be open at 3am and what would not ?

Unless he'd made a point of ringing every local police station to ascertain their opening hours, I don't suppose he did know.

Sub station are generally run by just one or two policemen. They were run on a three shift system but they weren't manned 24/7. Often the police office would be their front room because they lived at the "shop."

[Jan]

If you are going to contribute, can you not be abusive. Otherwise I will have to report you again.

Why would the man/men who answers the telephones at Witham have to leave the office ? His job is to be on the phone 100% of the time. There may be an important call !

Why do you think Bamber testified that he did not phone Witham ?

How do you know how Witham stationed was manned in 1985?

[Adam]

It was not abusive .Enlighten me and show me where he said he did not phone Witham .

Judges summing up -

On oath at trial he denied trying to telephone the police at Witham. However two officers (Bews/West) swore that Bamber had said he tried to call Witham.

The judge said 'members of the jury 'would you expect the defendant to remember'.

[Jane]

Tied to his chair. Who an earth has brought this up ?

I am not going to write to Bamber on this subject. As already mentioned on page 2.

Have you got any sources on sub stations and Tiptree and Malden. Where I live I would not have a clue about which of my four police stations are supposed sub stations.

The police houses of which I speak have long been in private hands. There are now no permanent police in the village where I lived OR the one where I now live. How lucky are you to have 4 police stations. The only way I could find any information about either Maldon or Tiptree -I'm not even sure that Tiptree is still policed from there- would be to phone then but I think they MAY suspect my motives.

[Adam]

How do you know how Witham stationed was manned in 1985?

Chelmsford got through.

Why do you think Jeremy didn't choose one of the other nine options available to him ? Or a combination.

Perhaps ring the relatives and Foakes's and then 'go quickly' to WHF, as requested. Neville didn't like to involve the police.

Bamber seemed quite specific in what he was doing. Getting a phone book out etc.  Then he rang Julie after the police ! Supporters say because he wanted her advice, something Bamber has never said.

[Jan]

lets try this from a different angle.

1) Did JB say in his statements that he had called Witham?

2) Did he change his mind in his statements that he had called Witham

3) did he change his mind in his testimony?

4) Or are you saying JB never said he called Witham but the police said that he had told them he did?

[Adam]

lets try this from a different angle.

1) Did JB say in his statements that he had called Witham?

2) Did he change his mind in his statements that he had called Witham

3) did he change his mind in his testimony?

4) Or are you saying JB never said he called Witham but the police said that he had told them he did?

You like different angles. Primary sources. You devil.

Well his WS says he immediately phoned the police after getting Neville's call. I do not recall him mentioning Witham. In fact he is now saying he phoned the police 26 minutes after getting Neville's call, rather than immediately afterwards.

[Jan]

You like different angles. Primary sources. You devil.

Well his WS says he immediately phoned the police after getting Neville's call. I do not recall him mentioning Witham. In fact he is now saying he phoned the police 26 minutes after getting Neville's call.

well this is supposed to have come from a book - blood relations and is the judges summing up and does not agree with what you have said
- Before he had a chance to say a word to his father the line went dead.
2 - He tried ‘two or three times’ to phone his father back but the line was engaged.
3 - Instead of dialling 999, he looked up the number of the police at Chelmsford, and called them. The incoming call was logged as having been made at 3.36, although ‘giving the defence the benefit of the doubt’, the true timing seems to have been 3.26. Jeremy claimed he was kept hanging on the line for eleven minutes. A police car was dispatched from Witham, and Jeremy told to meet it at the farm.
4 - He telephoned Julie at Lewisham, feeling he needed ‘a friendly ear’ and telling her there was ‘trouble’ at the farm. Julie told him to go back to bed. Jeremy’s call seems to have woken most of the occupants at Julie’s lodgings, who testified that they heard the phone ringing at ‘about 3.a.m.,’ ‘3.12 a.m.,’ and ‘two-something”


So now as this source is supposed to be the same Judges summing up where have we got to?


Which book/ summing up do we believe?