June Bamber, did not attend bible class evening before she was killed...

[Mr. Gee]

I don't recall you ever changing. You support Bamber as much as posters who outwardly support him.

I know you felt vulnerable after three supporters changed stance. But you need to stick to you're beliefs. Rather than suddenly  coming out and saying you are 'undecided'.

I stick to my beliefs although when I joined the board was nearly all pro Bamber. I got a lot of abuse as Bamber was being under attack from me on what used to be a pro Bamber forum.  By me following the evidence. Supporters focusing on me was a way to deflect attention from the evidence.

Several supporters who rarely post PM'd me saying they agreed with my posts. They probably rarely posted as they knew they would get abuse. People on another forum also praised my posts.

If someone had  strong beliefs it should be possible for someone to argue their case and be proud of their beliefs.

Adam, does it matter in this atomic age? We must learn to accept as truth what other members say about their feelings. I too have mixed feelings about Bamber, but as I have said on many occasions I like to keep the way open as I see inconsistencies in the police's side of things. If there is a million to one chance that a man may be innocent I think there is a need for further investigation than to continually slag him off. For if he is guilty then he is being punished already for his crimes without the need for us to keep kicking him when he is already down.

[Mr. Gee]

Oh Adam, if ONLY you could see yourself as others see you!!!! It isn't that you believe Jeremy is guilty that people find objectionable, it's the offensiveness of your approach. Of COURSE those with opposite views will argue -that's the nature of the beast and this is a forum- but for the MOST part, it's good natured. There appears to be VERY little that is good natured about your posts, in deed, their content is marked by sarcasm, ridicule, and a liberal dose of intolerance of other peoples' opinions.

SUCH irony that your OWN words -after saying some people rarely post because they'll get abuse- tell us "If someone had(sic) strong beliefs it should be possible for someone to argue their case and be proud of their beliefs"!!!!!!! ABSOLUTELY TRUE................ and yet YOU have to be a greater proponent of abuse than ALL the rest of the members put together. I would hazard a guess that you could be the poster they imagine they will get abuse from, even when they're on YOUR side. God help those who aren't.

"O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us. To see oursels as ithers see us!" I rather think that this applies to us all?

[susan]

Mr Gee I totally agree with your post whether we think Jeremy is guilty or innocent no point whatsoever in kicking him to death as their is always a chance he could be a MOJ.

[susan]

Mr Gee I was not aware you spoke Double Dutch

[Mr. Gee]

Mr Gee I was not aware you spoke Double Dutch

Tha's Scortish McSusan. Robert Burns one of yer own.

[susan]

Hahaha Mr Gee I love it

[Neil]

Adam, does it matter in this atomic age? We must learn to accept as truth what other members say about their feelings. I too have mixed feelings about Bamber, but as I have said on many occasions I like to keep the way open as I see inconsistencies in the police's side of things. If there is a million to one chance that a man may be innocent I think there is a need for further investigation than to continually slag him off. For if he is guilty then he is being punished already for his crimes without the need for us to keep kicking him when he is already down.

Great post Grahame.

[lookout]

 What I fail to understand in all this,particularly the Campaign for Freedom forum,is that there's heaps of documentation,all legit., yet not one of the persons involved in either the case or what's been said about an individual,has made a complaint or brought a case against those who they think/know to be wrong ??
Everyone should be having a field day suing for libel,or at least expressing themselves in some way.
Why hasn't anyone fought back?

[susan]

lookout could you elaborate more as I am not understanding you the Campain for Freedom is that the Campain Team for Jeremy.

[lookout]

 Yes,Susan,it is. One which I follow.

[susan]

Lookout I think they do Jeremy more harm than good they are in total control of who he associates with they want full control over him which I find very sad.  Please don't all attack me all at once

[lookout]

Oh,I won't attack you Susan.

I know the campaigners have got a bad reputation,but so did this forum have,and probably still does as far as Jeremy's concerned,as at one time,he wanted it closing down.

I would imagine that with the campaign forum he does at least feel that he's got a certain amount of support from the members there,including two or three who he knew from his home town.

[susan]

lookout you are right of course they will make him feel secure but sometimes wonder how he feels about them guess some of them will be genuine but not all of them. I suppose they are all he has other than you and others on this forum who have remained very loyal to him it is good you stand by your beliefs

[lookout]

 Jeremy's no fool,Susan,and has learnt along the way who to trust and who not to trust. Believe me,if I hadn't been 100% certain of his innocence,there's no way I'd be on this forum,or any other.

[Mr. Gee]

Lookout I think they do Jeremy more harm than good they are in total control of who he associates with they want full control over him which I find very sad.  Please don't all attack me all at once

I agree Susan. I think the so called campaign team are a total mess. I personally think that they are doing more harm than good as you say?