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Offline Jane

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You have changed your mind once - it might happen again....


But you've changed yours more frequently, having both innocent and guilty days, so there's yet time for more conversion, isn't there?

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But you've changed yours more frequently, having both innocent and guilty days, so there's yet time for more conversion, isn't there?

I change from time to time - I admit that freely, but I think it will be hard for me to ever have a fixed opinion on this case, too many unknown factors. Conversion is not all that likely when it comes to me. Sorry.

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I change from time to time - I admit that freely, but I think it will be hard for me to ever have a fixed opinion on this case, too many unknown factors. Conversion is not all that likely when it comes to me. Sorry.



Well at least that means you'll never be more than 50% wrong......................or right ;D ;D ;D

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That's no really relevant to what we are discussing to be honest - and the fact that CC would even think she could kill the twins and then kill herself next to them speaks volumes to me.

I thought CC said he could not see Sheila killing her sons or father.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Well at least that means you'll never be more than 50% wrong......................or right ;D ;D ;D

Win-win... or lose-lose... :)

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That's no really relevant to what we are discussing to be honest - and the fact that CC would even think she could kill the twins and then kill herself next to them speaks volumes to me.




CC didn't know his wife then,did he, when he was married to her ?

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Adam Colin did say that in his book but at the beginning he accepted Sheila had committed suicide and killed her children then when Jeremy was arrested he changed totally the moral of that story is how a person's mind can be changed by what they are told by others.

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CC didn't know his wife then,did he, when he was married to her ?


D'ya think that's a first?

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I change from time to time - I admit that freely, but I think it will be hard for me to ever have a fixed opinion on this case, too many unknown factors. Conversion is not all that likely when it comes to me. Sorry.

I think to be honest in my case I only waiver because it goes against every moral fibre to being in a discussion defending a person that could have committed such a crime.I would find it (personally) easier to be on the other side of the coin so to speak. But so far I have not changed my mind.

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Adam Colin did say that in his book but at the beginning he accepted Sheila had committed suicide and killed her children then when Jeremy was arrested he changed totally the moral of that story is how a person's mind can be changed by what they are told by others.
Not strictly true Susan. Colin was told by a Police Officer on the doorstep that Sheila was dead. He replied: "Oh no. She finally did it",almost thinking out loud. He learned about the deaths of Nicholas and Daniel inside,never really accepting his ex-wife had killed them..

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It won't, I didn't know then what I know now.

Know or think? Because if it is something you "know" 100%that proves his guilt you could put us out of our misery . Or is it a secret ?

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I think to be honest in my case I only waiver because it goes against every moral fibre to being in a discussion defending a person that could have committed such a crime.I would find it (personally) easier to be on the other side of the coin so to speak. But so far I have not changed my mind.

People are certainly different.

When I joined April, Susan and Caroline were as determined to support Bamber as you.

However they changed stance. While you, Grahame and Lookout have not moved an inch and defend the incriminating evidence to the hilt.

« Last Edit: January 26, 2015, 08:47:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Know or think? Because if it is something you "know" 100%that proves his guilt you could put us out of our misery . Or is it a secret ?

Hard to explain Jan. It's  collection of things which have convinced me.
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Reasons why the fake random stranger is a bad idea:

Jeremy could not insinuate Sheila. Something he has been doing for 30 years.

The relatives would still sniff around.

Jeremy would still be first on the scene anyway. Threads created.

I have never heard of such an incident. A stranger going to a remote farm house. Killing men women and children. Then leaving.

A psychopath is more likely to attack an individual. Probably one person he could over power. Rather than put himself up against five people.

If the police did not believe the random stranger theory, there would only be one suspect.

A psychopath is more likely to attack in open land and an environment he knows. Not enclose himself in unfamiliar surroundings.

Jeremy could not claim Neville phoned.

The relatives would still suspect Jeremy. And he would still tell Julie.

The psychopath would have to find a quiet way into WHF. Something Jeremy liked to keep secret from the police.

Julie never said this was an option Jeremy considered. Even he is not that stupid.

He could not create the siege and 'Crazy Sheila' situation.

There would be no sightings of mysterious men in the area. As there were not any.

Psychopaths usually attack women for sexual gratification, such as Robert Napper. I have never heard of one killing children and men as well in one spree.

The random stranger would have to attack using a weapon he had brought over. Such as a knife. He would not know about the guns in WHF. Or whether they were loaded.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2015, 09:06:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Reasons why the fake random stranger is a bad idea:

Jeremy could not insinuate Sheila. Something he has been doing for 30 years.

The relatives would still sniff around.

Jeremy would still be first on the scene anyway. Threads created.

I have never heard of such an incident. A stranger going to a remote farm house. Killing men women and children. Then leaving.

A psychopath is more likely to attack an individual. Probably one person he could over power. Rather than put himself up against five people.

If the police did not believe the random stranger theory, there would only be one suspect.

A psychopath is more likely to attack in open land and an environment he knows. Not enclose himself in unfamiliar surroundings.

Jeremy could not claim Neville phoned.

The relatives would still suspect Jeremy. And he would still tell Julie.

The psychopath would have to find a quiet way into WHF. Something Jeremy liked to keep secret from the police.

Julie never said this was an option Jeremy considered. Even he is not that stupid.

He could not create the siege and 'Crazy Sheila' situation.

There would be no sightings of mysterious men in the area. As there were not any.

Psychopaths usually attack women for sexual gratification, such as Robert Napper. I have never heard of one killing children and men as well in one spree.

The random stranger would have to attack using a weapon he had brought over. Such as a knife. He would not know about the guns in WHF. Or whether they were loaded.

By everything you have just written, you don't know what a psychopath is. Robert Napper is NOT a psychopath! He is a sexual sadist
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