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« Reply #600 on: April 30, 2015, 08:21:PM »





What's wrong in wanting to get rid of his father's clothes ? I got rid of my late husband's clothes,etc.

I also sold some antiques too,and gold sovereigns as well as old American dollars,which my daughter used when she went to the States,where she got 5 times more for their worth.

I don't see any smoke-screen.I have a clear view----------and my glass is always half-full.

What Jeremy did there is actually what people do when there is a death in the family - or like in this case deats before someone pops up and hits me over the head.

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« Reply #601 on: April 30, 2015, 08:44:PM »
I'm not talking about 'Looks or mannerisms' I'm talking about how he tried to rid WHF of his fathers clothes, how he started selling off antiques even before the funerals, his trips away and complete lack of interest in the farm (that he is supposed to have loved so much). I don't think any law students would be interested in the case for long, or at all because once you blow away the smoke screen, you can see Jeremy loading the rifle - and not to shoot rabbits.
you might habe a point about the other stuff

but why would he not get rid of his fathers clothes what use were they to him.

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« Reply #602 on: April 30, 2015, 08:50:PM »





What's wrong in wanting to get rid of his father's clothes ? I got rid of my late husband's clothes,etc.

I also sold some antiques too,and gold sovereigns as well as old American dollars,which my daughter used when she went to the States,where she got 5 times more for their worth.

I don't see any smoke-screen.I have a clear view----------and my glass is always half-full.

Did you drive a trailer up to your back door and unceremoniously toss them into it? I doubt it. Jeremy didn't just sell off a few coins and he wanted the cash for himself.

I'm glad your glass in half full but don't be too quick to raise it in celebration of Jeremy's release because if he's banking on an appeal from Sheila's medical records, he's on another hiding to nowhere.
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« Reply #603 on: April 30, 2015, 08:51:PM »
you might habe a point about the other stuff

but why would he not get rid of his fathers clothes what use were they to him
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It's the methods he used to get rid of them Nugs. Cold hearted to say the least!
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« Reply #604 on: April 30, 2015, 08:57:PM »
It's the methods he used to get rid of them Nugs. Cold hearted to say the least!

How should he have done it?

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« Reply #605 on: April 30, 2015, 09:01:PM »
How should he have done it?

So you think the method is acceptable?
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« Reply #606 on: April 30, 2015, 09:08:PM »
I don't think he got rid of his fathers clothes that quick because there were a few days to a week before he went into the farm house.


Having seen Mr Cock Jeremy was aware that he needed to pay inheritance taxes.  With Mr Cock's permission Jeremy was allowed to sell items from the farm to raise the money.  I think a piece of machinery was sold within the family.

Does anyone know the date that Jeremy decided to throw his fathers clothes away? 

 

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« Reply #607 on: April 30, 2015, 09:18:PM »
So you think the method is acceptable?

Yes. It is what is done. I am curious about how you suggest he should have done it.

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« Reply #608 on: April 30, 2015, 09:20:PM »
I don't think he got rid of his fathers clothes that quick because there were a few days to a week before he went into the farm house.


Having seen Mr Cock Jeremy was aware that he needed to pay inheritance taxes.  With Mr Cock's permission Jeremy was allowed to sell items from the farm to raise the money.  I think a piece of machinery was sold within the family.

Does anyone know the date that Jeremy decided to throw his fathers clothes away?

He went back to WHF for the first time on 12th August only 5 days after the murders. 5 days before throwing his dads clothes into a trailer. If people think that is an acceptable way to behave, then that for them to deal with. Personally, I think it shows just how cold hearted he was/is and a complete lack of respect for his father as a person and a victim of a horrendous murder. I haven't seen any statement by Mr Cock that claims he gave permission for items to be sold for inheritance tax purposes. He hadn't inherited anything at that point and the lack of funds certainly didn't stop him from enjoying a few holidays and giving Julie £200.00.

The date of throwing the clothes away is in one of AE's statements.
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« Reply #609 on: April 30, 2015, 09:24:PM »
Yes. It is what is done. I am curious about how you suggest he should have done it.

Sorry Alias, you might think throwing a loved ones clothes into an old manky trailer is acceptable but I don't and it's not 'what is done'. I gave my dads clothes to charity several weeks AFTER his funeral. I also kept one or two things. Then again, I didn't kill my dad for the inheritance.
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« Reply #610 on: April 30, 2015, 09:27:PM »
Yes. It is what is done. I am curious about how you suggest he should have done it.

Hi Alias

I think everyone deals with closure in different ways. When my father died his clothes were sent to the charity shop the day after his funeral.

When my mum died my step father keep her clothes for months, he could not face getting rid of them.

I know my step mother loved my father dearly, but it was her choice to get rid of his clothes, she even gave some of them to his friends and neighbours.

I doubt there is a set rule.... :(
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« Reply #611 on: April 30, 2015, 09:28:PM »
He went back to WHF for the first time on 12th August only 5 days after the murders. 5 days before throwing his dads clothes into a trailer. If people think that is an acceptable way to behave, then that for them to deal with. Personally, I think it shows just how cold hearted he was/is and a complete lack of respect for his father as a person and a victim of a horrendous murder. I haven't seen any statement by Mr Cock that claims he gave permission for items to be sold for inheritance tax purposes. He hadn't inherited anything at that point and the lack of funds certainly didn't stop him from enjoying a few holidays and giving Julie £200.00.

The date of throwing the clothes away is in one of AE's statements.

What do you suggest he should have done with the clothes? Buried them and held a ceremony?
This is how you throw out clothes, can´t see anything awful in it  - have done it myself even.
It is not nice, but it has to be done.

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« Reply #612 on: April 30, 2015, 09:33:PM »
My guess is that some of Nevill´s clothes were not good enough to give to charity. He worked on a farm and looked like a down to earth man who would use his clothes until they were worn and torn.

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« Reply #613 on: April 30, 2015, 09:37:PM »
What do you suggest he should have done with the clothes? Buried them and held a ceremony?
This is how you throw out clothes, can´t see anything awful in it  - have done it myself even.
It is not nice, but it has to be done.

I think he should have shown some respect for the man he'd just murdered - that's what I think! I didn't think for one moment you would admit to seeing anything awful in what he did. I wonder how many people (other than you) would contemplate throwing out their recently deceased parents clothes into an old trailer? 
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« Reply #614 on: April 30, 2015, 09:38:PM »
I think he should have shown some respect for the man he'd just murdered - that's what I think! I didn't think for one moment you would admit to seeing anything awful in what he did. I wonder how many people (other than you) would contemplate throwing out their recently deceased parents clothes into an old trailer?

Thanks for making me feel good about myself.

I have had to do this for an old relative who died in a nursing home - in another town in Denmark. What should I have done with the clothes other than throw them in a container?
It is done, not nice, but done.
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