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« Reply #510 on: March 27, 2015, 11:33:AM »
I'm sure she was but JUST her 'say so' isn't enough to take it as  a fact.





At the same time,I can't imagine that Keira would have said something like that without just cause.

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« Reply #511 on: March 27, 2015, 11:39:AM »




At the same time,I can't imagine that Keira would have said something like that without just cause.

People make mistakes but unless there is an official source, it's unreliable.
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« Reply #512 on: March 27, 2015, 11:46:AM »
People make mistakes but unless there is an official source, it's unreliable.






Where would Keira have got such information from ? She just wasn't the type to make anything up. It's quite possible that she's an Essex lass and got her info from someone " in the know ".We don't know.

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« Reply #513 on: March 27, 2015, 12:09:PM »
Andrea Yates who was going through the withdrawal ( cold turkey ) of Haloperidol, drowned her 5 children. Violence and feeling suicidal are part of the symptoms of withdrawal. Patients SHOULD be monitored for their reactions of reduction from the drug.

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« Reply #514 on: March 27, 2015, 12:20:PM »
An interesting question which was forwarded by a poster 4 years ago was,I quote, " If you needed a babysitter,who would you choose,a woman with a history of violence and psychotic attacks,or a man who was arrogant with no history of violence ?",unquote.

Be honest.

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« Reply #515 on: March 27, 2015, 12:44:PM »





Where would Keira have got such information from ? She just wasn't the type to make anything up. It's quite possible that she's an Essex lass and got her info from someone " in the know ".We don't know.

And as the only source for that comment - most likely, she was wrong. No one said she made it up but she could have incorrectly assumed that June was sectioned after suffering mental health issues. Unless it's a checkable fact Lookout, the comment is unreliable.
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« Reply #516 on: March 27, 2015, 01:18:PM »
And as the only source for that comment - most likely, she was wrong. No one said she made it up but she could have incorrectly assumed that June was sectioned after suffering mental health issues. Unless it's a checkable fact Lookout, the comment is unreliable.





It's always possible that Keira had got mixed up with Sheila,who was sectioned in the March after her most violent psychotic attack at the time.
No doubt this will come to our attention in due course as unseen/unknown notes on Sheila's illness will be at the forefront of the next submission.

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« Reply #517 on: March 27, 2015, 01:22:PM »
 Colin had been warned by Dr Ferguson that further psychotic attacks such as the one which scared Freddie,would be more prevalent,in other words,would increase in number.

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« Reply #518 on: March 27, 2015, 02:27:PM »
It's always possible that Keira had got mixed up with Sheila,who was sectioned in the March after her most violent psychotic attack at the time.
No doubt this will come to our attention in due course as unseen/unknown notes on Sheila's illness will be at the forefront of the next submission.

No evidence states either was sectioned.  They were admitted simply which suggests of their own free will they were admitted.  Since Sheila left on her own accord that too suggests she was not their under an sectioning.

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« Reply #519 on: March 27, 2015, 02:51:PM »
No evidence states either was sectioned.  They were admitted simply which suggests of their own free will they were admitted.  Since Sheila left on her own accord that too suggests she was not their under an sectioning.

You never bother to make sure you have any evidence on your side before making a claim.





Where's all YOUR evidence to prove these things didn't happen.?

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« Reply #520 on: March 27, 2015, 03:24:PM »




It's always possible that Keira had got mixed up with Sheila,who was sectioned in the March after her most violent psychotic attack at the time.
No doubt this will come to our attention in due course as unseen/unknown notes on Sheila's illness will be at the forefront of the next submission.


To my certain knowledge Sheila, like June, was NEVER put under section.

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« Reply #521 on: March 27, 2015, 03:33:PM »




It's always possible that Keira had got mixed up with Sheila,who was sectioned in the March after her most violent psychotic attack at the time.
No doubt this will come to our attention in due course as unseen/unknown notes on Sheila's illness will be at the forefront of the next submission.

What makes you think Sheila was sectioned in March??

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« Reply #522 on: March 27, 2015, 03:40:PM »
Where's all YOUR evidence to prove these things didn't happen.?

The burden of proof rests with the proponent of a claim.  I don't need to prove a negative you bear the burden of proving your claims.   

The doctors said both women were admitted to the hospital which is a term that means of their own free will as opposed to saying they were sectioned and forced to go.  The account of Sheila going features her instantly recognizing her father and calming down and then going to the hospital.  There are no accounts saying she was forced to go against her will and no account that says she was kept there against her will and released by the doctors after they decided she was to be released from sectioning.  There are suggestions that the doctor would have liked her to stay longer but she refused which means she had to be there of her own free will or she would not have been able to choose to leave.

Given the above upon what basis are you asserting Sheila was sectioned?
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« Reply #523 on: March 27, 2015, 03:53:PM »
What makes you think Sheila was sectioned in March??






I'm repeating what Keira had said and seemed to know,so DON'T be getting at ME again-okay ??

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« Reply #524 on: March 27, 2015, 03:54:PM »
People make mistakes but unless there is an official source, it's unreliable.

i doubt if there will still be records of an admittance that long ago its anybody's guess ether way.