Miscellaneous Notes...

[Jane]

Whatever medication one takes for a certain condition then who suddenly stops taking it, the condition for which it was meant,returns with a vengeance. It's a dangerous practice and should be done gradually by reducing the amount as the patient improves. This goes for most prescription medication.
Because Sheila had her injection reduced on HER terms,and by not having taken her other vital medication,she knew what she was going to do and was fully prepared in her mind,as well as being in full control of her imminent actions.

OR, might it be possible that because her meds had been halved she thought she would no longer suffer the unwanted side effects she was taking the counter meds for, thus eliminating the need for them?

[maggie]

OR, might it be possible that because her meds had been halved she thought she would no longer suffer the unwanted side effects she was taking the counter meds for, thus eliminating the need for them?

That is possible, it's accepted that schizophrenics are very likely to stop taking their meds as they believe they are 'better' and don't need medication any more, sadly this is when they are most likely to either become violent to others or towards themselves.   
It was a huge problem in the 80s when so many schizophrenics were discharged from the huge mental hospitals and many left to fend for themselves in bedsits, many were totally institutionalised and used to having their meds handed out and watched when they swallowed them left to their own devices they tended to stop the meds or take them erratically and before long were very ill, living on the streets and at risk to themselves and sometimes to others.

[Patti]

That is possible, it's accepted that schizophrenics are very likely to stop taking their meds as they believe they are 'better' and don't need medication any more, sadly this is when they are most likely to either become violent to others or towards themselves.   
It was a huge problem in the 80s when so many schizophrenics were discharged from the huge mental hospitals and many left to fend for themselves in bedsits, many were totally institutionalised and used to having their meds handed out and watched when they swallowed them left to their own devices they tended to stop the meds or take them erratically and before long were very ill, living on the streets and at risk to themselves and sometimes to others.

I wonder if any of her medication was found at the farm? I've don't think I have seen any reference to any drugs...

[Jane]

That is possible, it's accepted that schizophrenics are very likely to stop taking their meds as they believe they are 'better' and don't need medication any more, sadly this is when they are most likely to either become violent to others or towards themselves.   
It was a huge problem in the 80s when so many schizophrenics were discharged from the huge mental hospitals and many left to fend for themselves in bedsits, many were totally institutionalised and used to having their meds handed out and watched when they swallowed them left to their own devices they tended to stop the meds or take them erratically and before long were very ill, living on the streets and at risk to themselves and sometimes to others.

If my new stance still allows for speculation, it may simply have been that she FELT better. Being HOPELESS with dates, I can't make them coincide, but it MAY have been around the time she met Christine, in which case her spirits would have been lifted and I feel sure she'd have wanted to tell her that she was so well she no longer needed such a high dose of meds. OR having previously been erratic in taking them, in her excitement of meeting Christine, did she simply forget.

[lookout]

 I don't think that Sheila forgot to take her medication,but although she'd have felt out of control and " ill " had she taken it,she was still aware of the consequences of not having taken it.
The crux of her behaviour came after Christine had left for Canada when Sheila had time to mull over their meeting and how things could have been so different with her in June's place.Even down to playing with the twins,there were no prayers,instead,Christine joined the boys on the floor and played as NORMAL.
Imagine a thousand and one things going around in Sheila's mind as well as comparing June to Christine,which I imagine came up in the conversation on the night of the murders. This is all that was needed for such a conversation to get heated.
Sheila,with a gun,at last felt able to speak out and speak her mind about what had gone on during the meeting. The woman snapped as her mind wouldn't have allowed her to reason in the normal way.
Sheila would have held a lot of her feelings and angst inside her because as it was said on many an occasion,she couldn't talk to her mother.Sheila would confide in her friends too and was desperate to speak to one of them before the tragedy,but this friend was busy,so everything was going against Sheila,who was really desperate at this point. The poor woman must have felt as though she'd been deserted by everyone,even her father at this point,who she would be on the phone for hours to,just for someone to talk to and who would listen to her. 

[maggie]

I wonder if any of her medication was found at the farm? I've don't think I have seen any reference to any drugs...

Interesting question patti, have never heard if it was found, there was nothing in her system except the Haloperidol and a trace of cannabis I think so she obviously hadn't taken any other drugs for a while, may even have forgotten them    I think I read that JB said he had smoked some cannabis with her a few days before but cannabis hangs around in the body for quite a time, it can be detected for up to a month or a bit more after using I think, so she may not have even smoked that for a few weeks?

[lookout]

Sheila's aim was to have another child,so she'd possibly have thought that if she didn't take her medication and stopped smoking cannabis,that she'd become pregnant then Colin would stay with her. It had been mentioned that she'd wanted another baby.
Poor soul,imagine how she must have felt when she found out that she wasn't. That was prior to her stay at the farm,and something else that hadn't gone her way.
I'd imagine that this too was part of the conversation that took place on the night, as well as the fact if she'd found out that Colin was to take over the boys 100%,leaving Sheila with arranged and supported access.

Why does anyone think that Colin had suggested this arrangement ? Nobody does,or says this without a good reason.

[Jane]

Sheila's aim was to have another child,so she'd possibly have thought that if she didn't take her medication and stopped smoking cannabis,that she'd become pregnant then Colin would stay with her. It had been mentioned that she'd wanted another baby.
Poor soul,imagine how she must have felt when she found out that she wasn't. That was prior to her stay at the farm,and something else that hadn't gone her way.
I'd imagine that this too was part of the conversation that took place on the night, as well as the fact if she'd found out that Colin was to take over the boys 100%,leaving Sheila with arranged and supported access.

Why does anyone think that Colin had suggested this arrangement ? Nobody does,or says this without a good reason.

Curious then that she omitted to have her IUD removed, apart from which, the suggestion here, is that despite Colin being in an established relationship with another woman, Sheila had resumed a sexual relationship with him.

[Caroline]

Sheila's aim was to have another child,so she'd possibly have thought that if she didn't take her medication and stopped smoking cannabis,that she'd become pregnant then Colin would stay with her. It had been mentioned that she'd wanted another baby.
Poor soul,imagine how she must have felt when she found out that she wasn't. That was prior to her stay at the farm,and something else that hadn't gone her way.
I'd imagine that this too was part of the conversation that took place on the night, as well as the fact if she'd found out that Colin was to take over the boys 100%,leaving Sheila with arranged and supported access.

Why does anyone think that Colin had suggested this arrangement ? Nobody does,or says this without a good reason.

You can't possibly know any of that Lookout - Colin was in another relationship and last think he's have wanted was another child with Sheila.

[lookout]

You can't possibly know any of that Lookout - Colin was in another relationship and last think he's have wanted was another child with Sheila.

 It was Sheila who'd wanted another child,as maybe in her mind if she'd found herself pregnant it would have meant that they'd stay together.Which proves that she had no concept of the situation and chose to believe what she'd WANTED to believe,therefore proof that her mind wasn't functioning in normal mode.

[Jane]

 It was Sheila who'd wanted another child,as maybe in her mind if she'd found herself pregnant it would have meant that they'd stay together.Which proves that she had no concept of the situation and chose to believe what she'd WANTED to believe,therefore proof that her mind wasn't functioning in normal mode.

WHOA!!! Lookout!!!! Come back from wherever it is you're taking this. Sheila wanted another child!!!!! SAYS WHO and WITH WHOM?!!!! She'd been divorced from Colin for longer than she'd been married to him. She had no stable relationship and she couldn't cope with the children she'd got, PLUS she had an IUD fitted so she was HIGHLY unlikely to "find herself pregnant."

[lookout]

WHOA!!! Lookout!!!! Come back from wherever it is you're taking this. Sheila wanted another child!!!!! SAYS WHO and WITH WHOM?!!!! She'd been divorced from Colin for longer than she'd been married to him. She had no stable relationship and she couldn't cope with the children she'd got, PLUS she had an IUD fitted so she was HIGHLY unlikely to "find herself pregnant."

I'm not the only one who'd read about this.I'm almost certain it was in a doctors report.
I wouldn't make it up.

[Caroline]

 It was Sheila who'd wanted another child,as maybe in her mind if she'd found herself pregnant it would have meant that they'd stay together.Which proves that she had no concept of the situation and chose to believe what she'd WANTED to believe,therefore proof that her mind wasn't functioning in normal mode.

'Stay' together? They were 'divorced' - Colin was with someone else. It proves nothing because there is no proof that she wanted another child, with Colin or anyone else.

[Caroline]

I'm not the only one who'd read about this.I'm almost certain it was in a doctors report.
I wouldn't make it up.

Just because it's on the forum, doesn't make it a fact.

[Jane]

I'm not the only one who'd read about this.I'm almost certain it was in a doctors report.
I wouldn't make it up.

Lookout, I wouldn't have questioned it had it been a quote from Colin -she MAY have suggested it as a means, albeit, a very poor one, of getting him back- but I'm quite certain I've not seen it in a doctor's report and it SIMPLY doesn't make sense. WHERE was she going to get this new child from? Colin wasn't interested. Freddie? Unlikely. A series of one night stands until she got lucky?..................and when did she plan to get the IUD removed? Sorry, Lookout, but a woman ACTIVELY using contraception is NOT looking to get pregnant.