Miscellaneous Notes...

[lookout]

What gets me about this case is that when the prosecution were telling Jeremy he was lying,as they do,what did THEY have to back up THEIR claims that he was lying when there was clearly no evidence ?

[lookout]

Such as where Jeremy had said where he left the rifle in the first place. How did ANYONE know that he didn't ??

[lookout]

So far as I can see,the relatives were giving the police their own version of events,true or not,and these versions were being taken as the truth,whatever Jeremy had previously said,so contradicting what Jeremy had already stated in his own mind/words,to be the truth.

When you look deeply into all this very one-sided case,it's definitely and positively totally unfair.

[lookout]

Just this week,a beautiful Belgian woman has been accused of murdering 3 of her children by locking them in a shed and setting fire to it and them,while making her husband listen to their screams.

This was brought on by a custody battle.The 4th child,who's 9,was at school.

[lookout]

The above murder by the mother was brought on by a letter from her husbands' lawyer,claiming custody of the children.

[Caroline]

What gets me about this case is that when the prosecution were telling Jeremy he was lying,as they do,what did THEY have to back up THEIR claims that he was lying when there was clearly no evidence ?

Intuition - which is something you yourself hold a lot of stock in 

[lookout]

Intuition - which is something you yourself hold a lot of stock in 

My intuition is different  It comes without an end product or any other ulterior motive.

[scipio_usmc]

Such as where Jeremy had said where he left the rifle in the first place. How did ANYONE know that he didn't ??

Well first of all he changed his story of where he left it which is a clue he was lying.

Second it made no sense for him and the family to leave the gun out.

Third it made no sense for him to get the gun out to shoot rabbits for the first time in his life at that hour.

Fourth he would not have found the gun without the moderator and scope attached like he claimed

Finally and most significantly to support his story he staged bullets in the kitchen but staged too many and thus gave away that he staged them after the murders.  You ignored his own claim that he dumped them out next to the phone and suggested because they were dumped out this supports Sheila having done it.

Tell us again how you are not biased when you constantly ignore the facts and make up excuses for Jeremy...

[Jane]

Well first of all he changed his story of where he left it which is a clue he was lying.

Second it made no sense for him and the family to leave the gun out.

Third it made no sense for him to get the gun out to shoot rabbits for the first time in his life at that hour.

Fourth he would not have found the gun without the moderator and scope attached like he claimed

Finally and most significantly to support his story he staged bullets in the kitchen but staged too many and thus gave away that he staged them after the murders.  You ignored his own claim that he dumped them out next to the phone and suggested because they were dumped out this supports Sheila having done it.

Tell us again how you are not biased when you constantly ignore the facts and make up excuses for Jeremy...

Scipio, I CANNOT accept that you're third point is anywhere near correct. IMO, it's a WILDLY sweeping statement. I cannot imagine that ANY farming son of his age hasn't, at some point in his life had a go at shooting rabbits. He was allegedly good at shooting in his school gun club. Did he learn the skill there OR maybe when he'd been out shooting with his father. He may not have liked shooting rabbits but it doesn't mean that by the time he'd reached 25, he never had.

[Caroline]

My intuition is different  It comes without an end product or any other ulterior motive.

It does have an end product - you want Jeremy to be free, just as EP wanted him convicted.

[Jane]

It does have an end product - you want Jeremy to be free, just as EP wanted him convicted.

...............at any price. Holds true for both?

[lookout]

It does have an end product - you want Jeremy to be free, just as EP wanted him convicted.

It's not a PERSONAL gain though.

[Steve_uk]

The ammunition is a good point,though. A Sheila in psychosis is not going to plan anything. To my mind if it has to be Sheila it's a psychotic episode over which she bears no real control.

[Jane]

The ammunition is a good point,though. A Sheila in psychosis is not going to plan anything. To my mind if it has to be Sheila it's a psychotic episode over which she bears no real control.

STEVE!!! It seems as if we've done a 360 degree turn. That's exactly what I said when I first joined the forum :D

[Jan]

Scipio, I CANNOT accept that you're third point is anywhere near correct. IMO, it's a WILDLY sweeping statement. I cannot imagine that ANY farming son of his age hasn't, at some point in his life had a go at shooting rabbits. He was allegedly good at shooting in his school gun club. Did he learn the skill there OR maybe when he'd been out shooting with his father. He may not have liked shooting rabbits but it doesn't mean that by the time he'd reached 25, he never had.

Quite right even AP in his statement said he went shooting with his father - what does Scipio think they were doing ? shooting cows?