Miscellaneous Notes...

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Remember one or two things about what EP " hid " from view,but under the nose of AE,when an officer said to her " you didn't see that ",such as the time when a pair of shoes were surreptitiously removed from the bedroom.?
I wonder how many times AE " didn't see anything " ? No wonder her statements are full of " I don't remembers !".
Was this fair ? Was this open and above board as investigations go ? Was it fair that the police openly sided with the family without knowing what had occurred in Sheilas' mental state.? Even the family didn't know of the illness to the extent it had manifested itself. Not even the Bambers themselves fully realised.

It's only fair that this case should be allowed a public hearing.

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AE's statements were nothing but a damning version of how she would feel if Jeremy won his case and they ( the relatives ) stood to lose. You can sense the spite and bitterness and how she " didn't want to hear anything said about Aunt Junes' religion " ( didn't want to hear the truth in other words ) as spoken by CC and also Jeremy,while Heather Amos was present, and who AE took into the kitchen to put on her ( pretended ) display of horror at both men speaking like that,while she comforted Heather. Heather having been upset that the boys were forced to kneel and pray at every opportunity,as told by CC.

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Before the tragedy,the secretary to the Boutflours was the wife of an officer in the Essex police. They are close friends.

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Before? When did that change?

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JM was describing how peaceful Sheila looked,at the mortuary,then pointed under her chin to describe how she'd seen " a hole " there ( 1 )( one ) ??
This is on page 21.

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Reading through the 72 page statement of AE's,I've also come across the officer who told AE that" Sheila and Aunt June were on the bed with a gun between them,and a Bible on Sheilas' chest.
The officer in question was DC Mick Clark.

AE went on to say that Jeremy told her that Sheila was having shooting lessons ? Where ? With whom ?
Sheila was known to accompany her father and AP when they went shooting.

Sheila was known to accompany them where?  The best anyone could come up with about Sheila was she might have gone to a shooting party in Scotland but she didn't shoot and don't know if she was even watching the men shoot if she did go.

Jeremy's initial account to police was he taught her how to use the murder weapon and she had fired it and all the weapons in the house.  Family comments about her lack of interest in guns and the fact his claim of teaching her to shoot the murder weapon right before the murders looks suspicious seems to have caused Jeremy to drop such claims and instead to match the family claims that she was interested in guns and he had not known her to ever use any.   The way he tried to reconcile this change during his interrogation was to deny he told police the initial story and pretend that his second version is what he has said all along.  If he told the police initially that she had no interest in guns, had never used and and might not know how to operate them they would not have been as worried as they were.  His denial is not credible but he could not come up with anything better to try to explain it away. 

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Before? When did that change?

The woman could still be working for them for all I know.

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Sheila was known to accompany them where?  The best anyone could come up with about Sheila was she might have gone to a shooting party in Scotland but she didn't shoot and don't know if she was even watching the men shoot if she did go.

Jeremy's initial account to police was he taught her how to use the murder weapon and she had fired it and all the weapons in the house.  Family comments about her lack of interest in guns and the fact his claim of teaching her to shoot the murder weapon right before the murders looks suspicious seems to have caused Jeremy to drop such claims and instead to match the family claims that she was interested in guns and he had not known her to ever use any.   The way he tried to reconcile this change during his interrogation was to deny he told police the initial story and pretend that his second version is what he has said all along.  If he told the police initially that she had no interest in guns, had never used and and might not know how to operate them they would not have been as worried as they were.  His denial is not credible but he could not come up with anything better to try to explain it away.

Wherever Neville and AP went shooting,would be the answer to your first question.

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Wherever Neville and AP went shooting,would be the answer to your first question.

You are going by an allegation made by Jeremy which was disputed.  AP denied Sheila went with him as he went shooting.  There was no one who could back up Jeremy's allegation she would walk with Nevill as he shot. 

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You are going by an allegation made by Jeremy which was disputed.  AP denied Sheila went with him as he went shooting.  There was no one who could back up Jeremy's allegation she would walk with Nevill as he shot.

Erm,no,not Jeremy.It's in AE's 72 page WS.

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 So AE had suggested that Sheila have black flowers at her funeral ? For Gods' sake,black flowers ??

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Erm,no,not Jeremy.It's in AE's 72 page WS.

She wrote that JEREMY alleged she had gone shooting with AP and Nevill but basically said she didn't believe him.  At best this is evidence of what Jeremy alleged not evidence that his claims were true:



AP said he only used the gun for target shooting not rabbit hunting.  He said he only discovered the gun and used it the one time which was about a week before the murders.  He said Jeremy encountered him and shot it with him not Sheila and it was as they both target shot. 

Subsequent to this discussion with AE he gave his written statement and in it he wrote that he didn't know Sheila to ever fire any guns.  So in his written statement he didn't include the claim he made to AE that Sheila had gone shooting rabbits with AP and Neville learned how to use the murder weapon in such manner.

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 The COLP statement is different.14/8/91.

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The COLP statement is different.14/8/91.

Nope that statement also says Jeremy claimed such and that she didn't believe him.  It notes how Jeremy told different people different things.

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 If you read all the pages from start to finish,you'll see many discrepancies and made-up versions of what did or didn't take place.How AE could have known Sheila or anything about her I fail to see as they didn't see each other from one year to the next,if that.
AE had said Jeremy was making up the fact that fostering was mentioned,so it's quite clear to me that the woman believed what SHE wanted to believe.