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« Reply #75 on: January 31, 2015, 08:56:PM »
When you think about it,considering the relatives more or less suspected Jeremy within days,they didn't appear to be perturbed if and when he was in their company ? Even down to handing him a couple of rifles ?
If that had been me,I'd have voiced my concerns to the police there and then and brought an injunction against him being within the vicinity where I was and spoken of my fear then and not 30 years later when he's already behind bars.

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« Reply #76 on: January 31, 2015, 08:59:PM »
Imagine being in WHF " with a murderer on the loose " ? Doesn't make sense. I couldn't have gone near the place.

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« Reply #77 on: February 01, 2015, 11:02:AM »
When you think about it,considering the relatives more or less suspected Jeremy within days,they didn't appear to be perturbed if and when he was in their company ? Even down to handing him a couple of rifles ?
If that had been me,I'd have voiced my concerns to the police there and then and brought an injunction against him being within the vicinity where I was and spoken of my fear then and not 30 years later when he's already behind bars.
The were probably looking for an opportunity to pounce lookout? When they found nothing with which to accuse him, perhaps then it called for something up someone's sleeve to be initiated? ;)

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« Reply #78 on: February 01, 2015, 06:33:PM »
Do we have RWB's diary in the archives ? Some interesting reading,particularly the part where it was said that Jeremy didn't make friends because people called him " the bastard ". How nice to speak of your nephew in such a way------------------I don't think !

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« Reply #79 on: February 01, 2015, 06:35:PM »
Do we have RWB's diary in the archives ? Some interesting reading,particularly the part where it was said that Jeremy didn't make friends because people called him " the bastard ". How nice to speak of your nephew in such a way------------------I don't think !

I am not sure if they are in the archives - but some of them are on the forum.

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« Reply #80 on: February 01, 2015, 06:41:PM »
I am not sure if they are in the archives - but some of them are on the forum.




Yes,they're on the forum Jan. More tongue-in-cheek reading.

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« Reply #81 on: February 01, 2015, 06:58:PM »
PS Woodcocks' statement claims that there were fingermarks of blood around her throat ! Were they from Sheilas' right hand which was also bloody ?

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« Reply #82 on: February 01, 2015, 07:56:PM »
Nowadays,if anyone shows their disapproval,and also uses accusatory remarks of someone being homosexual,then they too face the wrath of those cross-examining them in court. Pity it hadn't been applied at the time when Jeremy was on trial when RWB hired a private detective to follow him and Brett Collins,accusing Jeremy !
I don't think we heard anything further on that sly move.

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« Reply #83 on: February 01, 2015, 08:40:PM »
How about the 3 year old who found a 9mm gun in his mothers bag,shot his father in the buttock,it exited and hit his pregnant mother in the arm ?
So even a 3 year old knows how a gun fires/handles.!

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« Reply #84 on: February 01, 2015, 08:41:PM »
PS Woodcocks' statement claims that there were fingermarks of blood around her throat ! Were they from Sheilas' right hand which was also bloody ?




Also Rozga had reported seeing a shotgun in the upstairs office.

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« Reply #85 on: February 07, 2015, 05:39:PM »
Do we have Dr.Fergusons' discharge letter anywhere from Sheilas' last visit at St.Andrews ?
Amongst the details he wrote,it included" the idea that Sheila was capable of murdering her children,as well as her having spoken of suicidal thoughts ".
Cocaine had been taken more frequently in the year leading up to the murders.
The reduced dose of Haldol would have been wholly inadequate plus the fact that it had passed its peak as Sheila was nearing the end of her last,reduced dose.
Anafranil hadn't been taken,nor had Procyclidine. Because of the high potency of Haldol,which had been halved,the risk of Akathisia was high,hence Sheilas' restlessness and inability to sleep.

In other words,she was a ticking time-bomb,a very very sick woman.

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« Reply #86 on: February 07, 2015, 06:14:PM »
Whether or not in the next submission it will contain " evidence of inducement ",I don't know,or whether it's already been discussed.I refer to JM when she was granted immunity if she stood as a prosecution witness.

The Guardian newspaper had seen a letter from the assistant director of public prosecutions to the chief constable of EP telling him to advise JM of dropping charges if she appeared as a witness to testify against JB.

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« Reply #87 on: February 07, 2015, 07:14:PM »
When questioned about the silencer,AE had answered by saying " I never knew we were all going to be put through this "---------------------what??

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« Reply #88 on: February 07, 2015, 10:26:PM »
Do we have Dr.Fergusons' discharge letter anywhere from Sheilas' last visit at St.Andrews ?
Amongst the details he wrote,it included" the idea that Sheila was capable of murdering her children,as well as her having spoken of suicidal thoughts ".
Cocaine had been taken more frequently in the year leading up to the murders.
The reduced dose of Haldol would have been wholly inadequate plus the fact that it had passed its peak as Sheila was nearing the end of her last,reduced dose.
Anafranil hadn't been taken,nor had Procyclidine. Because of the high potency of Haldol,which had been halved,the risk of Akathisia was high,hence Sheilas' restlessness and inability to sleep.

In other words,she was a ticking time-bomb,a very very sick woman.
I think this must be in Dr. Ferguson's notes from Sheila's stay in hospital in 1983,which must be held under PII because they don't seem to be available to read anywhere. In his last statement written post-murders there is one sentence which refers to this: "Whilst in 1983 the expressed fears of harming or doing violence to her children these fears did not seem to recur".http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1204.0.html

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« Reply #89 on: February 07, 2015, 10:42:PM »
I think this must be in Dr. Ferguson's notes from Sheila's stay in hospital in 1983,which must be held under PII because they don't seem to be available to read anywhere. In his last statement written post-murders there is one sentence which refers to this: "Whilst in 1983 the expressed fears of harming or doing violence to her children these fears did not seem to recur".http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1204.0.html


Steve, unless my eyes are deceiving me, it VERY much sounds as if he's saying that when her meds were reduced the psychoses returned.