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Offline Patti

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I've been very naughty and emailed the met office..... :) :) :)

Offline mike tesko

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Police stage managed Sheila's body, they did not just move her hand (as claimed by DI Cook) they moved her arm, the gun, and her nightdress:-
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They moved her right arm, her right hand, the gun, and then pulled the hem of her nighdress up just like it was when they photographed her on the bed...
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You can tell that police moved the rifle on Sheila's body (despite police protestations that they did not move anything at all, save for her right hand to enable PC Bird to photograph bloodstains on the front lower right hand side of her nightdress, by comparing the shifted position of the rifles barrel  which was pointing somewhere beneath Sheila's chin and neck, but in another photograph, the guns barrel is actually resting against the left hand side of her throat....

The distance with which the barrel of the gun has traveled in these photographs is identical to the distance the butt of the rifle has traveled, in the other photographs...
« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 04:15:PM by mike tesko »
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You can tell that police moved the rifle on Sheila's body (despite police protestations that they did not move anything at all, save for her right hand to enable PC Bird to photograph bloodstains on the front lower right hand side of her nightdress, by comparing the shifted position of the rifles barrel  which was pointing somewhere beneath Sheila's chin and neck, but in another photograph, the guns barrel is actually resting against the left hand side of her throat....

The distance with which the barrel of the gun has traveled in these photographs is identical to the distance the butt of the rifle has traveled, in the other photographs...

Similarly, the distance with which the hem of Sheila's nightdress has ridden up is also equivalent to the distance traveled by the guns barrel against the throat, and the butt of the rifle...
« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 04:19:PM by mike tesko »
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You can see the extent that the hem of Sheila's nightdress has ridden up by using the pair of socks as a marker against which to make the necessary comparison:-

Also note, the curve of the guns stock is positioned by police at the hem of the nightdress in both positions?
« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 04:28:PM by mike tesko »
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Hi Grahame - IMO this is what Bob Miller wrote in his notebook.  I hope it helps.  :)

"9:30 a.m. Upstairs bedroom on right hand side at top of stairs see woman by door (wife) covered in blood.  Marks to neck.  In same room far side of bed daughter with .22 rifle by her right side.  Appears to have gunshot wounds to neck.  Bible laying alongside".
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You can see the extent that the hem of Sheila's nightdress has ridden up by using the pair of socks as a marker against which to make the necessary comparison:-

Also note, the curve of the guns stock is positioned by police at the hem of the nightdress in both positions?
Butt of rifle was obviously used to hide or conceal any view of her crotch, once police moved the hand, moved the arm, moved the gun, and moved the hem of the nightdress, because she was not wearing any panties. In fact, when police had earlier photographed Sheila's body on the bed, minus a gun on her body, with the hem of her nightdress ridden high up her thighs, there was nothing present to obstruct any view of her crotch at that time. So, it seems like once they moved Sheila's body to the floor, the police used the rifle's stock and Butt to give Sheila a modicum of decency so that photographs which were not indecent could be taken of her for photographic purposes...

What we have here then, is evidence that it was the police who definitely stage managed Sheila's body on the bedroom floor, yet during the trial it was the prosecutions case that Jeremy Bamber had done the stage managing, in an effort to fool the police into thinking his sister had taken her own life?

I beg your pardon...
« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 04:40:PM by mike tesko »
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Hi Grahame - IMO this is what Bob Miller wrote in his notebook.  I hope it helps.  :)

"9:30 a.m. Upstairs bedroom on right hand side at top of stairs see woman by door (wife) covered in blood.  Marks to neck.  In same room foot side of bed daughter with .22 rifle by her right side.  Appears to have gunshot wounds to neck.  Bible lying alongside".

I would like to know what date the pocketbook which these notes are written in, was issued to PI "Bob" Miller, since its contents do not match with the witness statement he supposedly made where he recounts that Sheila's body was on the far side of the bed? Nor does it match with what Miller told Deputy Coroner Thompkins at the opening of the inquest on 14th August 1985, when Miller told the hearing that police believed that Sheila killed the others and that she then took her own life by way of a solitary shot to the throat...
« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 04:42:PM by mike tesko »
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One thing for sure,poor soul didn't die with horror or agony in her face,or fear for that matter.

I've watched people die in the most horrific circumstances,and it's showed. Features screwed up in pain,particularly after a traumatic  RTA.. A sudden heart attack where death occurs can also display an expression of fear and pain.

Those who accept death, die in a more dignified way because they were expecting to do so, and therefore are accepting of it, as in the pics shown,where Sheila  looked peaceful.

I would have liked to have seen pics of June and Nevill, in which to compare. I bet they were a lot different.

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So...

we have police officers denying that they moved or touched anything at all at the scene, except for DI Cook, who moved Sheila's right hand so that PC Bird could photograph some marks on the front lower part of Sheila's nightdress. Yet, Sheila's right arm was moved, the gun was moved, and the hem of her nightdress was moved, and nobody at the scene saw this happen. Not only that, but although photographic evidence exists to prove police moved the bodies, and exhibits about for the purpose of allowing PC Bird to take photographs which have been misused at the trial stage (October 1986). And to cap it all, the CCRC take the view that the contents of witness statements (some made by the DPP on behalf of witnesses not present when the statements in question were made, or edited) are more important and reliable than photographs taken at the crime scene? ER... What is the world coming to, with people like these in charge of deciding whether or not a case should be sent back to the court of appeal? Fucking imbeciles, the lot of them, they actually make me feel ill (even though I am). What a carry on, police in this case move the bodies, and DPP makes their statements, or edits them in their absence, and although photographic evidence exists to show police tampered with the crime scene, everybody carries on as though the police and the DPP and the rest of his gang of cronies, have done nothing wrong - they are all crackpots, the fucking lot of them, legalized fucking crackpots, no wonder the country is in the state its in...
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Offline mike tesko

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PC Bird took the photographs which prove police stage managed Sheila's body on the floor in the bedroom, yet he didn't see anyone tamper with Sheila's arm, or the gun, or her nightdress?

What an idiotic account...

How these morons have not been prosecuted for perverting the course of justice, beats me...
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Yes, Bridget...still not 100% sure about it, but I gather there was some sort of moonlight that night, but not a full moon....Now we have to look to see if it was cloudy lolol
Here is a computer-generated picture of what the moon would have looked like on 7th August 1985 4am:




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Hi Mike - Is there a copy of Bob Miller's statement anywhere?  I've looked in the Transcripts and Statements section which was started by Hartley but can't find anything.  Thanks.  :)

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Hi Bib it's the last quarter image that we want...which is shaded 50%...If you can find one for us that wll be good....TIA...:)
Patti - that image is the precise view for the date in question (as generated here http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/vphase.html)