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Quote from: Lady chelmsey on April 11, 2011, 11:57:PMKaldin,I am so glad you brought this subject up.A mistake being made regarding 2 bodies in the kitchen........ok,well I can buy that.But then the TFU radio in 3 further bodies found upstairs.Another mistake? I dont think so.These are highly trained officers!I agree, but I'm wondering if the TFU did actually radio that in or whether the person keeping the log misunderstood what was going on. That's why the logs need to be looked at again and it needs to be established who was writing them and where they were getting their information from - ie, whether it was first hand or second hand information.
Kaldin,I am so glad you brought this subject up.A mistake being made regarding 2 bodies in the kitchen........ok,well I can buy that.But then the TFU radio in 3 further bodies found upstairs.Another mistake? I dont think so.These are highly trained officers!
I do not want to offend so excuse me. I thought that Ralphs pyjama trousers were round his ankles.Even a nun would have reckonised this as a male yet this highly trained officer said he saw a dead female through the window.
If it was pubic he would have known. On the other hand I am informed it shrinks with age. Blast I have got nothing to look forward to now.
Just a thought if they could see the head, how come they said it was a female.
Quote from: Kaldin on April 12, 2011, 08:20:AMQuote from: Lady chelmsey on April 11, 2011, 11:57:PMKaldin,I am so glad you brought this subject up.A mistake being made regarding 2 bodies in the kitchen........ok,well I can buy that.But then the TFU radio in 3 further bodies found upstairs.Another mistake? I dont think so.These are highly trained officers!I agree, but I'm wondering if the TFU did actually radio that in or whether the person keeping the log misunderstood what was going on. That's why the logs need to be looked at again and it needs to be established who was writing them and where they were getting their information from - ie, whether it was first hand or second hand information.But I dont think that wouldn't explain 'a murder and a suicide'.
Quote from: chochokeira on April 11, 2011, 05:33:PMQuote from: chochokeira on April 11, 2011, 05:17:PMQuote from: Richard lee on April 11, 2011, 04:58:PMQuote from: chochokeira on April 11, 2011, 04:48:PMQuote from: Richard lee on April 11, 2011, 02:53:PMQuote from: John on April 11, 2011, 01:27:PMFrom what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall. A really expert piece of investigating that is.there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!--------------------------------------------------No they are your lovely facts TB, just look under the 2002 judgement of his last rejected appeal. :DAlso, Richard, why do you call me TB? I'm sure I've seen you call others TB too. Do you seriously believe that I am TB, or is this another of your unique semantic slips?what does TB stand for do you know and if so sure he is innocent why is he still banged up?
Quote from: chochokeira on April 11, 2011, 05:17:PMQuote from: Richard lee on April 11, 2011, 04:58:PMQuote from: chochokeira on April 11, 2011, 04:48:PMQuote from: Richard lee on April 11, 2011, 02:53:PMQuote from: John on April 11, 2011, 01:27:PMFrom what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall. A really expert piece of investigating that is.there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!--------------------------------------------------No they are your lovely facts TB, just look under the 2002 judgement of his last rejected appeal. :DAlso, Richard, why do you call me TB? I'm sure I've seen you call others TB too. Do you seriously believe that I am TB, or is this another of your unique semantic slips?
Quote from: Richard lee on April 11, 2011, 04:58:PMQuote from: chochokeira on April 11, 2011, 04:48:PMQuote from: Richard lee on April 11, 2011, 02:53:PMQuote from: John on April 11, 2011, 01:27:PMFrom what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall. A really expert piece of investigating that is.there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!--------------------------------------------------No they are your lovely facts TB, just look under the 2002 judgement of his last rejected appeal. :D
Quote from: chochokeira on April 11, 2011, 04:48:PMQuote from: Richard lee on April 11, 2011, 02:53:PMQuote from: John on April 11, 2011, 01:27:PMFrom what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall. A really expert piece of investigating that is.there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!--------------------------------------------------No they are your lovely facts TB, just look under the 2002 judgement of his last rejected appeal. :D
Quote from: Richard lee on April 11, 2011, 02:53:PMQuote from: John on April 11, 2011, 01:27:PMFrom what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall. A really expert piece of investigating that is.there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!--------------------------------------------------
Quote from: John on April 11, 2011, 01:27:PMFrom what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall. A really expert piece of investigating that is.there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!
From what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall. A really expert piece of investigating that is.
Help me out Choch, unless it's too hurtful - what does TB mean?
Hi Everyone - I realise that this is an old thread but I've been reading over a lot of these old threads lately to try to get a better understanding of the case.In this thread Mike states that he has copies of Bob Millers's notebook confirming several issues and will post these. Could anyone please tell me where they are? Thanks.
