'Bob' Millers notebook, confirms SC's body found on bed, and RB sat on chair...

[mike tesko]

It begs the question, why doesn't the detail that is written in PI 'Bob' Millers notebook, that deals with the position of SC and RB's bodys, not equate with the position of those bodies, as shown in PC Birds (SOC) crime scene pictures...

[andrea]

will you be having access to this notebok mike? have you already seen it?

will you post the important bits on here?

[mike tesko]

will you be having access to this notebok mike? have you already seen it?

will you post the important bits on here?

... Yes, I  will be making the contents of PI 'Bob' Millers, notebook, which refers to these matters - I have copies in my possession...

[andrea]

excellent, look forwrd to it.

[John]

From what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.

First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.

Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall.  A really expert piece of investigating that is.

[Richard lee]

From what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.

First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.

Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall.  A really expert piece of investigating that is.

there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!

[chochokeira]

From what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.

First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.

Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall.  A really expert piece of investigating that is.

If you can't believe anything Ep said about the position of the bodies, then how can you rely on any of EP's claims about this case full stop? Explain to me please, how the word of police officers who, on your own admission, can't be believed, can be relied on.

[chochokeira]

From what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.

First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.

Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall.  A really expert piece of investigating that is.

there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!

there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs

and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman

which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man

that was reported by the operator that i male and female

but she should have cancelled the female at the time

as it was the same person but she didn't know,

that's why she logged one dead male and female.

Hope that clears things up for you!

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Is this a wind?

[Roch]

From what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.

First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.

Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall.  A really expert piece of investigating that is.

there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!

It seems to have taken them a long time to correct their little error, considering they called for the coronor, in relation to (1) a murder... and (2) a suicide.  Also, how would you explain the later message that came through concerning  the search of house having been completed and  'a further three bodies found'.  That's two bodies found on entry, a further three bodies found on completing the search.  In your version, would it not be one body found on entry and a further four bodies found on completion of search?  And where does the description of suicide come from?  Do you mean police thought that RNB had been murdered but also committed suicide simultaneously? (not to mention swapping sex)

[Richard lee]

From what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.

First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.

Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall.  A really expert piece of investigating that is.

there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!

there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs

and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman

which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man

that was reported by the operator that i male and female

but she should have cancelled the female at the time

as it was the same person but she didn't know,

that's why she logged one dead male and female.

Hope that clears things up for you!

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Is this a wind?

No they are your lovely facts TB, just look under the 2002 judgement of his last rejected appeal. :D

[Richard lee]

From what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.

First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.

Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall.  A really expert piece of investigating that is.

there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!

It seems to have taken them a long time to correct their little error, considering they called for the coronor, in relation to (1) a murder... and (2) a suicide.  Also, how would you explain the later message that came through concerning  the search of house having been completed and  'a further three bodies found'.  That's two bodies found on entry, a further three bodies found on completing the search.  In your version, would it not be one body found on entry and a further four bodies found on completion of search?  And where does the description of suicide come from?  Do you mean police thought that RNB had been murdered but also committed suicide simultaneously? (not to mention swapping sex)

This has all been proved in court from the 2002 appeal that it was only one dead male, like the so called Ralphs call so why keep going over old ground

[Roch]

From what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.

First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.

Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall.  A really expert piece of investigating that is.

there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!

It seems to have taken them a long time to correct their little error, considering they called for the coronor, in relation to (1) a murder... and (2) a suicide.  Also, how would you explain the later message that came through concerning  the search of house having been completed and  'a further three bodies found'.  That's two bodies found on entry, a further three bodies found on completing the search.  In your version, would it not be one body found on entry and a further four bodies found on completion of search?  And where does the description of suicide come from?  Do you mean police thought that RNB had been murdered but also committed suicide simultaneously? (not to mention swapping sex)

This has all been proved in court from the 2002 appeal that it was only one dead male, like the so called Ralphs call so why keep going over old ground

With due respect. The appeal judges may have bought Essex Police's reasoning but I'm afraid I cant.  You cant have two bodies found on entry then a further three bodies found upon completion of search, miraculously changing in to an alternative 1/4 ratio.  You cant have a murder and a suicide called in on the logs, before the further three bodies have even been found on completion (unless SC is found upon entry).

[chochokeira]

From what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.

First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.

Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall.  A really expert piece of investigating that is.

there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!

there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs

and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman

which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man

that was reported by the operator that i male and female

but she should have cancelled the female at the time

as it was the same person but she didn't know,

that's why she logged one dead male and female.

Hope that clears things up for you!

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Is this a wind?

No they are your lovely facts TB, just look under the 2002 judgement of his last rejected appeal. :D

Oh, forgive me, I must have missed the section of the 2002 Judgement where the following sparkling jem of legal logic is reported:

"that was reported by the operator that i male and female"

If you're correct and this is a fact from the 2002 Judgment, you'll be able to post a link to it, Richard.
Go ahead, post it.

[chochokeira]

From what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.

First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.

Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall.  A really expert piece of investigating that is.

there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!

It seems to have taken them a long time to correct their little error, considering they called for the coronor, in relation to (1) a murder... and (2) a suicide.  Also, how would you explain the later message that came through concerning  the search of house having been completed and  'a further three bodies found'.  That's two bodies found on entry, a further three bodies found on completing the search.  In your version, would it not be one body found on entry and a further four bodies found on completion of search?  And where does the description of suicide come from?  Do you mean police thought that RNB had been murdered but also committed suicide simultaneously? (not to mention swapping sex)

This has all been proved in court from the 2002 appeal that it was only one dead male, like the so called Ralphs call so why keep going over old ground

With due respect. The appeal judges may have bought Essex Police's reasoning but I'm afraid I cant.  You cant have two bodies found on entry then a further three bodies found upon completion of search, miraculously changing in to an alternative 1/4 ratio.  You cant have a murder and a suicide called in on the logs, before the further three bodies have even been found on completion (unless SC is found upon entry).

Well said, Rocky!

[Richard lee]

From what I have seen we cannot believe anything that has been said about the position of the bodies.

First we are told that there were two bodies lying on the floor downstairs and then later when the investigating officer and others go into the house the female had disappeared apparently upstairs.

Then we have different photos showing the rifle in differing positions on Sheila's body and another showing it leaning against the bedroom wall.  A really expert piece of investigating that is.

there was only one dead body in the kitchen which was Ralphs and was mistakenly seen outside the window for a woman which was reported to the operator and then when found it was a man that was reported by the operator that i male and female but she should have cancelled the female at the time as it was the same person but she didn't know, that's why she logged one dead male and female. Hope that clears things up for you!

It seems to have taken them a long time to correct their little error, considering they called for the coronor, in relation to (1) a murder... and (2) a suicide.  Also, how would you explain the later message that came through concerning  the search of house having been completed and  'a further three bodies found'.  That's two bodies found on entry, a further three bodies found on completing the search.  In your version, would it not be one body found on entry and a further four bodies found on completion of search?  And where does the description of suicide come from?  Do you mean police thought that RNB had been murdered but also committed suicide simultaneously? (not to mention swapping sex)

This has all been proved in court from the 2002 appeal that it was only one dead male, like the so called Ralphs call so why keep going over old ground

With due respect. The appeal judges may have bought Essex Police's reasoning but I'm afraid I cant.  You cant have two bodies found on entry then a further three bodies found upon completion of search, miraculously changing in to an alternative 1/4 ratio.  You cant have a murder and a suicide called in on the logs, before the further three bodies have even been found on completion (unless SC is found upon entry).

Well said, Rocky!

You can't which is fair enough but where it counts infront of the judges who have all the evidence it does, This is why he's still locked away i'm afraid for you and those are facts not hearsay.