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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #150 on: January 05, 2015, 08:49:PM »
Robert Boutflour it is said tried his hardest to find evidence of tyre tracks along the "muddy" sea wall and every other short cut but found none. Also the mud on the bike was tested forensically by the police and was found to be completely different from mud either on the sea wall or the other supposed short cuts. So unless someone is dead set on believing Bamber to have used that bike without any evidence whatsoever, then that is up to them. But neither Robert Boutflour or the prosecution were able to find any evidence whatsoever. So by deduction anyone who suggests that he used the bike is totally prejudiced and no amount of evidence will convince them. It also declares very clearly indeed that those particular people cannot be reasoned with, so it is a total waste of time to argue with them.
Note: We rely entirely upon FACTS and not whimsical fairytails like this silly suggestion that Bamber stol his mother's bike.
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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #151 on: January 05, 2015, 08:50:PM »
You are right I have noticed this, Adam does seem personally resentful of everything  Jeremy possessed. Thought his theory was that  Jeremy was jealous of Sheila but it sounds more , like Adam was jealous of Jeremy.  Did you know Jeremy Bamber Adam?

Know ? I live in London and am decades younger.

I read up on the case two years ago. With an open mind. Then deliberately bought the best reviewed, most unbiased book. Then joined the forum.

It is fascinating that a few people actually believe Bamber is innocent.
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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #152 on: January 05, 2015, 08:51:PM »
No it can be established independently. If the relationship was in decline (1) Why would Mugford continue to go and see him? (2) Why would he allegedly discuss his murder plans with her? Those two things alone contradict her witness statement and if Bamber said it, it also contradicts his statement.



It was Jeremy's opinion that the relationship was in decline. He'd gone off her. He didn't fancy her. But if she was willing to hang on he was quite willing to have sex with her. I imagine his plans had been discussed with her long before the relationship went South. We have to bear in  mind that she may have encouraged him to talk about it in the hope of making them closer.

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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #153 on: January 05, 2015, 08:51:PM »
You are right I have noticed this, Adam does seem personally resentful of everything  Jeremy possessed. Thought his theory was that  Jeremy was jealous of Sheila but it sounds more , like Adam was jealous of Jeremy.  Did you know Jeremy Bamber Adam?

I think it sounds like it.
I have seen several cases discussed on different forums, and people have been preoccuied with the crime, never heard anyone begrudging the people discussed their clothes, car, house, travels, stereo, sun bed, schooling, food, girlfriends, parties, looks, friends etc etc!
Very strange!

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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #154 on: January 05, 2015, 08:54:PM »
I have just found Julies statement where she admitted that she may have mentioned the bike for her use the previous summer. Strange because June had only just bought the bike. But it does show that Jeremys explanation was perfectly possible.

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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #155 on: January 05, 2015, 08:55:PM »
Know ? I live in London and am decades younger.

I read up on the case two years ago. With an open mind. Then deliberately bought the best reviewed, most unbiased book. Then joined the forum.

It is fascinating that a few people actually believe Bamber is innocent.
Which of course turned out to be the most biased book you could have bought. How do I know that? Oh because of the way you post almost everything you read in the book. No Adam you did not read with an OPEN mind, or you would not come up with the tripe you do just to try and demolish Bambers character. I for one am not fooled by you. ;)

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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #156 on: January 05, 2015, 08:55:PM »
Know ? I live in London and am decades younger.

I read up on the case two years ago. With an open mind. Then deliberately bought the best reviewed, most unbiased book. Then joined the forum.

It is fascinating that a few people actually believe Bamber is innocent.


From your phraseology and individual words us use you come across as being decades OLDER.

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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #157 on: January 05, 2015, 08:56:PM »
Know ? I live in London and am decades younger.

I read up on the case two years ago. With an open mind. Then deliberately bought the best reviewed, most unbiased book. Then joined the forum.

It is fascinating that a few people actually believe Bamber is innocent.

So you watch a lot of very old movies? John Wayne and all that stuff?

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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #158 on: January 05, 2015, 08:56:PM »
I have just found Julies statement where she admitted that she may have mentioned the bike for her use the previous summer. Strange because June had only just bought the bike. But it does show that Jeremys explanation was perfectly possible.
I think Tyler said it was brought round to Jeremy's three weeks before the murder and not three days, perhaps Tyler can confirm that?

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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #159 on: January 05, 2015, 08:59:PM »
I think it sounds like it.
I have seen several cases discussed on different forums, and people have been preoccuied with the crime, never heard anyone begrudging the people discussed their clothes, car, house, travels, stereo, sun bed, schooling, food, girlfriends, parties, looks, friends etc etc!
Very strange!
Deffinitely more than a hint of bitterness imo.

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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #160 on: January 05, 2015, 09:01:PM »
Which of course turned out to be the most biased book you could have bought. How do I know that? Oh because of the way you post almost everything you read in the book. No Adam you did not read with an OPEN mind, or you would not come up with the tripe you do just to try and demolish Bambers character. I for one am not fooled by you. ;)

Wilkes's  book is the least biased book. Lomax's book is very biased. That is what Lomax does. Look for MOJ's.

Read the reviews on Amazon.
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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #161 on: January 05, 2015, 09:03:PM »
So you watch a lot of very old movies? John Wayne and all that stuff?

I have never mentioned John Wayne.

But I do like to look butch in my stetson.
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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #162 on: January 05, 2015, 09:06:PM »
Wilkes's  book is the least biased book. Lomax's book is very biased. That is what Lomax does. Look for MOJ's.

Read the reviews on Amazon.
I'm just explaining as to why you are biased Adam. If his book was not biased logic tells me that neither would you be biased. Have you read Lomax's book?

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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #163 on: January 05, 2015, 09:08:PM »
I have never mentioned John Wayne.

But I do like to look butch in my stetson.



Indeed you have because it gave me pause to wonder if you were as young as you say.

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Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #164 on: January 05, 2015, 09:10:PM »
I'm just explaining as to why you are biased Adam. If his book was not biased logic tells me that neither would you be biased. Have you read Lomax's book?

I would say Wilkes's book is less biased than Lomax's and I thought that while I believed Jeremy was innocent. Wilkes give no indication of whether he believes Jeremy is guilty or innocent - personally, I would say he was undecided - then. I think it's clear that Lomax thinks he is innocent or did at the time of writing the book.
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