Documentary tonight: Crimes that Shook Britain, Jeremy Bamber

[chochokeira]

But the point is Julie Mugfords evidence probably convicted Jeremy but who would have believed her if they knew there was a bonus for her of twenty five thousand what kind of fair trial was that.

Two people were going to be very wealthy if Jeremy was convicted of murder

Julie mugford got probably a hundred thousand pounds if not more if you look at what it is worth today she quite successfully upped her game from the cheque fraud

Does anyone here believe she was telling the truth and could anyone give me a sensible reason why they believe she was telling the truth when she admitted to lieing before.
I think we should have a Julie mugford poll on here lieing or not lieing with the reasons if people think she was telling the truth

I dont think she was lying, think she kept quiet thinking she was going to be in the money and her and JB would be living the high life but once he dumped her she squeled!

Point is there is no evidence about who said what! its her word against his, the jury believed her!

Wasnt it a newspaper that paid out?

Liars have a remarkable history of telling the truth when their own necks are on the line.  I have no doubt whatsoever that Julie Mugford knew what she was talking about.  She gave a huge number of statements and was consistent where it counted. Once the police and the Crown had offered her a deal she knew she was quids in and wouldn't be prosecuted for conspiracy as long as she testified.

Once that was in the bag she just opened up and didn't stop talking.

If Mugford was telling the truth, why did she require 30 odd rehearsals of her story?

[chochokeira]

That has to be an unprecedented number of rehearsals, even for a complex murder trial.

[paulg]

And still got it wrong, why did she mention Macdonald?

[Jackiepreece]

So are you saying you agree that JB had an unfair trial if you could have been swayed over the newspaper deal

[Hartley]

If Mugford was telling the truth, why did she require 30 odd rehearsals of her story?

Maybe her statement contained some long words?

[paulg]

So are you saying you agree that JB had an unfair trial if you could have been swayed over the newspaper deal

Was that to me Jackie?

Yes i think JB had an unfair trial, but i think he's guilty.

[joolz1975]

So are you saying you agree that JB had an unfair trial if you could have been swayed over the newspaper deal

Yes he probably had an unfair trial

Still doesnt mean he didnt do it!

[Jackiepreece]

Sorry my last post was for jolly

Just to add on I find it very disturbing that the prosecutions 2 main witnesses seem to be the people that it is well documented had violent tempers

Julie mugford tried to smother JB with a pillow

Peter eaton punched Neville over a money land deal

Replies about JB s violent disposition

[joolz1975]

Sorry my last post was for jolly

Just to add on I find it very disturbing that the prosecutions 2 main witnesses seem to be the people that it is well documented had violent tempers

Julie mugford tried to smother JB with a pillow

Peter eaton punched Neville over a money land deal

Replies about JB s violent disposition

I once threw a remote control at my husbands head, doesnt mean im a liar.

[Jackiepreece]

That was meant to be joolz not jolly sorry stupid keyboard

[joolz1975]

That was meant to be joolz not jolly sorry stupid keyboard

Lol im Jolly sometimes so tis ok!

[John]

And still got it wrong, why did she mention Macdonald?

Because that is what Jeremy told her.

[grahameb]

So are you saying you agree that JB had an unfair trial if you could have been swayed over the newspaper deal

Was that to me Jackie?

Yes i think JB had an unfair trial, but i think he's guilty.

Well give him a fair trial and then hang 'im. 

[chelmsey]

If Essex police did not carry out a thorough investigation of the murders at WHF then McDonald's alibi may not have been investigated properly. It would be much harder to have got a conviction with both of them in the dock. Essex police went with the easiest conviction in my honest opinion.

I would like to know, What is McDonald doing now? Did he have any history of violence? Has he committed any violent crime since?

I am of the same opinion here Simon.  A alibi which looks too good is sometimes suspect.  If this guy was planning to do what he did wouldn't he have made sure that he had a bullet-proof (sorry about the pun) alibi.

What possible alibi could someone have for 3am in the morning unless they were proven to be hundreds of miles from the scene.  What was the alibi anyway, isn't a bit strange that nobody seems to know??   

John..........if it is Matthew McDonalds alibi you are wanting information on........he says he spent the night with a girlfriend.

[chochokeira]

But the point is Julie Mugfords evidence probably convicted Jeremy but who would have believed her if they knew there was a bonus for her of twenty five thousand what kind of fair trial was that.

Two people were going to be very wealthy if Jeremy was convicted of murder

Julie mugford got probably a hundred thousand pounds if not more if you look at what it is worth today she quite successfully upped her game from the cheque fraud

Does anyone here believe she was telling the truth and could anyone give me a sensible reason why they believe she was telling the truth when she admitted to lieing before.
I think we should have a Julie mugford poll on here lieing or not lieing with the reasons if people think she was telling the truth

Excellent points and well put, Jackie +1