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Offline lookout

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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #210 on: February 05, 2020, 04:34:PM »
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I don't think so. Nowhere near the extent that you are.

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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #211 on: February 05, 2020, 04:44:PM »




I don't think so. Nowhere near the extent that you are.

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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #212 on: February 05, 2020, 04:45:PM »
I find anybody who is prepared to put in some effort and collate facts, figures and opinions and try to present them in a manner that informs others deserves some credit.

I have not read the lady's book, but I would always anticipate myself disagreeing with some opinion or other, or reaching a different conclusion even whilst given the same evidence. However her efforts are still considerably greater than mine, and most likely greater than the majority here.

She may well 'feel' that JB is guilty. We all 'feel' one way or the other, unless we are truly sat on the fence.

'Feeling' need not be an irrational emotive reaction though. It can be a feeling born out of our interpretation of the evidence we are aware of.

There is always the option of countering her book with an alternative interpretation right?
Is it so wrong of her to commit her thoughts and interpretations to print? Most of us have no qualms about expressing our opinions, why shouldn't she, in whatever form she chooses?
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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #213 on: February 05, 2020, 04:47:PM »




I don't think so. Nowhere near the extent that you are.


D'you know, Lookout? You can be in denial/lie through your teeth in public for as long as you like, but late at night, when there's no one else to lie to, there's really no point in lying to yourself, how ever loudly you intone the 'la la la' song.

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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #214 on: February 05, 2020, 05:30:PM »
I find anybody who is prepared to put in some effort and collate facts, figures and opinions and try to present them in a manner that informs others deserves some credit.

I have not read the lady's book, but I would always anticipate myself disagreeing with some opinion or other, or reaching a different conclusion even whilst given the same evidence. However her efforts are still considerably greater than mine, and most likely greater than the majority here.

She may well 'feel' that JB is guilty. We all 'feel' one way or the other, unless we are truly sat on the fence.

'Feeling' need not be an irrational emotive reaction though. It can be a feeling born out of our interpretation of the evidence we are aware of.

There is always the option of countering her book with an alternative interpretation right?
Is it so wrong of her to commit her thoughts and interpretations to print? Most of us have no qualms about expressing our opinions, why shouldn't she, in whatever form she chooses?

Absolutely none!
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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #215 on: February 05, 2020, 05:41:PM »
Absolutely none!

She has written a book hailed as the 'difinitive' version of events, which has been made in to a TV program. She will make money off both. It's not in any way a difinitive version of events. In order to come to her personal view on the case, she has omitted or belittled police corruption. The program is informing people's opinions in favour of guilt and the viewers are of the opinion that it is almost totally factual. I would say that's doing something wrong. It's cynical and one sided.
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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #216 on: February 05, 2020, 05:44:PM »
She has written a book hailed as the 'difinitive' version of events, which has been made in to a TV program. She will make money off both. It's not in a way a difinitive version of events. In order to come to her personal view on the case, she has omitted or belittled police corruption. The program is informing people's opinions in favour of guilt and the viewers are of the opinion that it is almost totally factual. I would say that's doing something wrong. It's cynical and one sided.

Prove there has been some then wrote your own definitive account. As it stands it's pretty much definitive to me.
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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #217 on: February 05, 2020, 05:51:PM »
She has written a book hailed as the 'difinitive' version of events, which has been made in to a TV program. She will make money off both. It's not in any way a difinitive version of events. In order to come to her personal view on the case, she has omitted or belittled police corruption. The program is informing people's opinions in favour of guilt and the viewers are of the opinion that it is almost totally factual. I would say that's doing something wrong. It's cynical and one sided.

That's marketing for ya.
You are at liberty to set the record straight with your own tome.

I purchased a definitive Elvis collection CD. It wasn't.
I purchased a definitive U2 biography. It wasn't.
Does one ever purchase a book expressed as definitive and expect it to be so?

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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #218 on: February 05, 2020, 06:01:PM »
Prove there has been some then wrote your own definitive account. As it stands it's pretty much definitive to me.





You wouldn't be saying that if she'd written in the style of Lomax !

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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #219 on: February 05, 2020, 06:03:PM »
That's marketing for ya.
You are at liberty to set the record straight with your own tome.

I purchased a definitive Elvis collection CD. It wasn't.
I purchased a definitive U2 biography. It wasn't.
Does one ever purchase a book expressed as definitive and expect it to be so?

I have some magic beans if you're interested...






A bit of a difference when it touches on a real crime though don't you think ?

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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #220 on: February 05, 2020, 06:09:PM »





A bit of a difference when it touches on a real crime though don't you think ?


Read any history book. They're written by the victors.

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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #221 on: February 05, 2020, 06:11:PM »
That's marketing for ya.
You are at liberty to set the record straight with your own tome.

I purchased a definitive Elvis collection CD. It wasn't.
I purchased a definitive U2 biography. It wasn't.
Does one ever purchase a book expressed as definitive and expect it to be so?

I have some magic beans if you're interested...

No I'm not. If tried to get a program commissioned about police corruption in the case, it would be turned down. Not because of a lack of police corruption in the case, but because that's not what's wanted at the moment. There was nothing to stop the commissioners from insisting upon some balance.
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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #222 on: February 05, 2020, 06:14:PM »

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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #223 on: February 05, 2020, 06:19:PM »




You wouldn't be saying that if she'd written in the style of Lomax !

It wouldn't bother me. I don't rate Lomax's book but I don't begrudge him for writing it or for making a living.
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Re: Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?
« Reply #224 on: February 05, 2020, 06:23:PM »
No I'm not. If tried to get a program commissioned about police corruption in the case, it would be turned down. Not because of a lack of police corruption in the case, but because that's not what's wanted at the moment. There was nothing to stop the commissioners from insisting upon some balance.

But you don't have any evidence of such corruption. I'm still waiting for the evidence that Bamber blamed the TFG?
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