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both David and Ralph in their claims speak of the silencer being in a cardboard box and it was at an ANGLE....when viewed....odd how they both fixate on this ANGLE thing..sounds like collusion in a fabrication. One claiming the angle to be about 45 degrees !!!!!!! David claims the box was about 8inches by 5 inches by 5 inches. With possibly (no commitment to claim) bullets in the bottom of the box etc.This silencer is supposedly 6 or 7 inches wrong so to claim it was at an angle in the box sounds very wrong.. One would not expect any "angle comments" ..as it should have sat in the box lengthways very easily and rolled into place whenever the box was tilted a little.It looks in my view that the ANGLE comment was an agreed upon comment the pair decided to throw into the claims to try making the claims to be more credible. In my view ..they support the contention that the silencer finding claims are bogus.