Why was " Taff " Jones so adamant of Jeremys' innocence ?

[lookout]

 What exactly was it which confirmed Jeremys' innocence ?
There MUST have been some indication to have given " Taff " the outright conclusion in which he came to. Afterall,it was a massive case in 1985 and not one to have been taken lightly in any way.

[nugnug]

thats what ive often wondered it might be he just dident like the relatives.

[lookout]

 Just the half of it nugs.

[Adam]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5379.0.html

[lookout]

 The main thing being that he knew Sheila was still alive as did the firearms team. Jeremy was outside.

[Adam]

The main thing being that he knew Sheila was still alive as did the firearms team. Jeremy was outside.

Was that when there were 'conversation inside the house '? 

[lookout]

Was that when there were 'conversation inside the house '? 

6 audio-tapes seems such a waste if they were all blank don't you think ?? 

[lookout]

 JM had everyone fooled. All except " Taff " Jones who told SJ that she was telling lies,to which SJ replied, quote," she told the truth about the break-in at the caravan park,and also the bank fraud ",unquote. Ah,said " Taff ",to make lies appear credible,you have to throw in a couple of truths " !!
She did that alright.
 What a way to land a poor innocent guy in jail for 30 years for ! No wonder the Jones's parted company. "Taff " wanted no truck with anyone who worked that way.

[Mr. Gee]

JM had everyone fooled. All except " Taff " Jones who told SJ that she was telling lies,to which SJ replied, quote," she told the truth about the break-in at the caravan park,and also the bank fraud ",unquote. Ah,said " Taff ",to make lies appear credible,you have to throw in a couple of truths " !!
She did that alright.
 What a way to land a poor innocent guy in jail for 30 years for ! No wonder the Jones's parted company. "Taff " wanted no truck with anyone who worked that way.

He could see a liar for what it was and saw straight through the relatives game.

[Adam]

Taff believed in Bamber's innocence up until the day of his premature death. Being head of the investigation the other officers fell fell into line, although people like Stan Jones disagreed.

The relatives  believed it was Jeremy. But Taff dismissed them. Taff could not have been very convincing as the relatives did not give up.

Robert Boutflour went to Essex Police HQ at Chelmsford. Telling Peter Simpson his concerns. Peter Simpson agreed straight away to look at the case again. Sending CID over to assist the police. Headed by Jim Kinelly.

Despite Taff's belief Jeremy was innocent, he did the first interviews with Bamber. After some light probing Bamber did not confess. 'Julie must be telling lies' Taff said to Stan !

Peter Simpson got everyone together and asked every police officer in the room who they thought was responsible. Everyone said Bamber. Except Taff, although he had no evidence to change anyone's mind.

Taff was still allowed to continue interviewing Bamber.

Eventually Clarke and Stan Jones took over interviewing tasks. Taff being quietly removed from the case. The way he had tried to quietly remove Stan.

The ousting seems above board. Outside individuals being brought into the case and everyone following the evidence.  Taff may have been the corrupt one. Refusing to change stance, perhaps worried about his golf, repercussions from above and the chance Bamber would walk. As well as being too proud to admit his early mistake.

[Adam]

Stan Jones interviewed Julie. Not Taff.

[Jane]

Taff believed in Bamber's innocence up until the day of his premature death. Being head of the investigation the other officers fell fell into line, although people like Stan Jones disagreed.

The relatives  believed it was Jeremy. But Taff dismissed them. Taff could not have been very convincing as the relatives did not give up.

Robert Boutflour went to Essex Police HQ at Chelmsford. Telling Peter Simpson his concerns. Peter Simpson agreed straight away to look at the case again. Sending CID over to assist the police. Headed by Jim Kinelly.

Despite Taff's belief Jeremy was innocent, he did the first interviews with Bamber. After some light probing Bamber did not confess. 'Julie must be telling lies' Taff said to Stan !

Peter Simpson got everyone together and asked every police officer in the room who they thought was responsible. Everyone said Bamber. Except Taff, although he had no evidence to change anyone's mind.

Taff was still allowed to continue interviewing Bamber.

Eventually Clarke and Stan Jones took over interviewing tasks. Taff being quietly removed from the case. The way he had tried to quietly remove Stan.

The ousting seems above board. Outside individuals being brought into the case and everyone following the evidence.  Taff may have been the corrupt one. Refusing to change stance, perhaps worried about his golf, repercussions from above and the chance Bamber would walk. As well as being too proud to admit his early mistake.

Adam, for once all of the above makes sense to me. I VERY much doubt that any of it is yours but it DOES follow human psychology as I understand it.

It is HUGELY possible that Taff was mistaken but instead of giving him room to come to that conclusion he was ganged up on and bullied into changing his mind and he dug his heels in. There are the usual elements of dislike, distrust, greed, envy and class issues all being played out by various people. Adam, you of all people should understand that when people feel as if they're being backed into a corner they come out fighting, so unless you habitually wear waterproofs, best beware of fire fighters, eh.

[Mr. Gee]

Stan Jones interviewed Julie. Not Taff.

Nevertheless he told them that she was a liar and that he didn't believe her. I'm sure Wilkes must have that bit in his book?

[Caroline]

Adam, for once all of the above makes sense to me. I VERY much doubt that any of it is yours but it DOES follow human psychology as I understand it.

It is HUGELY possible that Taff was mistaken but instead of giving him room to come to that conclusion he was ganged up on and bullied into changing his mind and he dug his heels in. There are the usual elements of dislike, distrust, greed, envy and class issues all being played out by various people. Adam, you of all people should understand that when people feel as if they're being backed into a corner they come out fighting, so unless you habitually wear waterproofs, best beware of fire fighters, eh.

Which is exactly what I thought! 

[Mr. Gee]

Adam, for once all of the above makes sense to me. I VERY much doubt that any of it is yours but it DOES follow human psychology as I understand it.

It is HUGELY possible that Taff was mistaken but instead of giving him room to come to that conclusion he was ganged up on and bullied into changing his mind and he dug his heels in. There are the usual elements of dislike, distrust, greed, envy and class issues all being played out by various people. Adam, you of all people should understand that when people feel as if they're being backed into a corner they come out fighting, so unless you habitually wear waterproofs, best beware of fire fighters, eh.

Or you could look at it another way if you are thinking of human psychology. That once someone else took over the investigation they all fell in line again?