Song For Jeremy Bamber (First version)

[Jane]

"Long,straggly hair?" With all that farm machinery around and a wife who would have had ten fits at her husband having had" long,straggly hair". Is there a pic of this " long,straggly hair ?" Because in the outline of the poor man dead in his armchair,there didn't appear to be much hair waving about ?

Lookout, it was a "style" typical of all men of Neville's class. It actually still is. The length starts from a low set parting from which it grows all one length to just above the opposite ear where it is tapered. The eventual length of hair depends largely on the shape of the head. Neville had a magnificent head of curly hair growing from a long skull. Because of the curl, hair combed into place can look much shorter than it is. Because Neville had fallen/been pushed(?) forward his hair, which I imagine would have become dishevelled anyway, due to a struggle, would have fallen forward and because of its abundance would have given the appearance of length. Also, curl was more associated with female hair.

[lookout]

 Trick photography giving the impression of long,straggly hair,probably. A lot of enhancements were going on at the time.
 I'm also going by the pic with just him and June. It looks like the more wirey,sandy/fair hair that grows more outward than it does lengthwise.
Also the " vanishing " hair on the end of the silencer could have been that of Nevilles' as that wasn't very long for it to have been " lost " in transit.A longer hair would have stayed put,if only to have coiled itself around the damn thing.

I still can't visualise this long straggly hair.

[Caroline]

Trick photography giving the impression of long,straggly hair,probably. A lot of enhancements were going on at the time.
 I'm also going by the pic with just him and June. It looks like the more wirey,sandy/fair hair that grows more outward than it does lengthwise.
Also the " vanishing " hair on the end of the silencer could have been that of Nevilles' as that wasn't very long for it to have been " lost " in transit.A longer hair would have stayed put,if only to have coiled itself around the damn thing.

I still can't visualise this long straggly hair.

Nothing to do with trick photography, he had long straggly hair - that's a fact!

[Alias]

Trick photography giving the impression of long,straggly hair,probably. A lot of enhancements were going on at the time.
 I'm also going by the pic with just him and June. It looks like the more wirey,sandy/fair hair that grows more outward than it does lengthwise.
Also the " vanishing " hair on the end of the silencer could have been that of Nevilles' as that wasn't very long for it to have been " lost " in transit.A longer hair would have stayed put,if only to have coiled itself around the damn thing.

I still can't visualise this long straggly hair.

There is a photo of it in the photo-thread. His hair actually was rather long. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,887.15.html

Photo MN5

[Caroline]

There is a photo of it in the photo-thread. His hair actually was rather long. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,887.15.html

Photo MN5

Thanks Alias, I was just about to post it  . I thought it was a pretty well known fact that his hair was long, especially given that the picture is in the archives.

[Adam]

Trick photography giving the impression of long,straggly hair,probably. A lot of enhancements were going on at the time.
 I'm also going by the pic with just him and June. It looks like the more wirey,sandy/fair hair that grows more outward than it does lengthwise.
Also the " vanishing " hair on the end of the silencer could have been that of Nevilles' as that wasn't very long for it to have been " lost " in transit.A longer hair would have stayed put,if only to have coiled itself around the damn thing.

I still can't visualise this long straggly hair.

Do you agree with Bamber that Sheila was in the kitchen when the raid team broke in. Having shot herself once. She then walked upstairs and shot herself again. None of the raid team seeing her go upstairs.

Wait there. Was the rifle upstairs ? There has never been a report of a rifle being seen in the kitchen.

That means Sheila shot herself upstairs. Then went downstairs to the kitchen without the rifle. Then back up stairs after the raid team entered to shoot herself again. 

Or shot herself downstairs in the kitchen. Went upstairs and left the rifle there. Then went back downstairs to the kitchen. Then went back upstairs after the raid team entered WHF to shoot herself again.

A lot of walking for a woman with a bullet in her neck. She also magically avoided getting vertical blood lines during her walk abouts.

[lookout]

There is a photo of it in the photo-thread. His hair actually was rather long. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,887.15.html

Photo MN5

Looks more like that Greek God with the serpents coming out of its head. Yet in the silhouetted version where you think that it would have shown the outline of his hair------------didn't ?

BTW,looking at the striated marks on Sheilas' forearm,they are gouges and not something that has dripped on them.

[Jane]

There is a photo of it in the photo-thread. His hair actually was rather long. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,887.15.html

Photo MN5

Couldn't find a picture of Neville-too impatient :D But I'm thinking of the one taken a a village fete(?) He has a long skull -which automatically means hair will be longer because it has more growing space- and an abundance of long curling hair.

[Alias]

Changed my mind....

[lookout]

 Not the description of the " big strapping farmer " that we were led to believe. Old and worn out I'd have said.

[maggie]

Not the description of the " big strapping farmer " that we were led to believe. Old and worn out I'd have said.

he was only 61, true he had a serious back injury which probably did impede his gait but he would still have been mentally alert and fit in most ways?

[lookout]

he was only 61, true he had a serious back injury which probably did impede his gait but he would still have been mentally alert and fit in most ways?

He was a worried man,Maggie and that would have brought him down somewhat. Sapped his strength in other words.

[maggie]

He was a worried man,Maggie and that would have brought him down somewhat. Sapped his strength in other words.

But was he? BW told us he was but she did tell us many things many of which contradicted each other.  I still cannot believe a man of Nevill's calibre would have been so easily brought down unless there was something extremely serious/life threatening we don't know about, the pm showed he was a fit man.

[lookout]

But was he? BW told us he was but she did tell us many things many of which contradicted each other.  I still cannot believe a man of Nevill's calibre would have been so easily brought down unless there was something extremely serious/life threatening we don't know about, the pm showed he was a fit man.

He'd certainly have been a sitting target on the night of the murders after having worked all day and seemingly half the night as well,him going back out into the fields again after supper,he'll have definitely felt his 61 years poor man. Which is why he'd have given up the fight as easily as he had done.

[Mr. Gee]

Changed my mind....

About what?