Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?

[Caroline]

My late husband and his brother sounded identical on the phone. My daughters' friends' husband sounds like my brother.
If the guy can kill,by shooting his wife,and nearly killing his own child into the bargain,then he's got no qualms about shooting dead someone else's wife and children.
There's every possibility that he HADN'T known that Sheila and the twins were there.

I would know my dads voice out of a thousand. However, why was he calling Jeremy? (Not that he did).

[Jane]

That's how he sounds to me too - a hothead.

Why didn't I think of that?

[Alias]

Caroline, there was nothing duplicitous about him. He didn't take time out to consider what would be his best move. He acted quite spontaneously and as I said, would NEVER have skulked around in the dark. He'd have blasted them in full daylight had he felt justified. Neither would he have attacked those who hadn't, in some way, offended him.

There was a four hour siege before he shot his wife, then himself. He must have had some second thoughts, not completely spontanious - four hours is a long time. Poor woman, poor kid.

[maggie]

I happen to have an extreme memory for voices, so no, I wouldn´t be fooled. I don´t know how Jeremy´s voice recognition capacity is. He claims he was woken up, probably confused, conversation very short.

I don´t seriously think this happened, but nothing is impossible, and I am always looking for that missing piece. To me the case is not solved.

I agree with that, some people give dreadful descriptions of people and would swear they had seen what they describe even though they are proven to be completely wrong. It can be the same with voices especially if the words spoken are words associated by the listener with a particular person. It probably didn't happen but there is a possibility it did.

[Caroline]

And did he also call the police and pretend to be Nevill? There's kind of no logic is there?

[lookout]

She didn't 

Exactly--------she was shot.Both women were facing each other in the bedroom.Both had originally been sitting up when shot,with the rifle just thrown down on the floor the same as the Bible was with its pages opened wherever it landed,from a height.
On that rifle were fingerprints of an unknown male.

[Jane]

My late husband and his brother sounded identical on the phone. My daughters' friends' husband sounds like my brother.
If the guy can kill,by shooting his wife,and nearly killing his own child into the bargain,then he's got no qualms about shooting dead someone else's wife and children.
There's every possibility that he HADN'T known that Sheila and the twins were there.

It's beginning to sound as if you're accusing Jimmy of the murders, Lookout.

[Alias]

I would know my dads voice out of a thousand. However, why was he calling Jeremy? (Not that he did).

To have him come over to be able to wipe the Bamber family off the face of the earth!

There was no call to the police....


As I said, I don´t really believe this, just answering back! 

[lookout]

It's beginning to sound as if you're accusing Jimmy of the murders, Lookout.

It's not the first time I have,April.

[Jane]

Surely you can't mean that ANYONE other than Jeremy is responsible!!!

[Caroline]

There was a four hour siege before he shot his wife, then himself. He must have had some second thoughts, not completely spontanious - four hours is a long time. Poor woman, poor kid.

Yes, what he did was terrible but he had obviously made up his mind that he wanted to die and he was taking his wife with him. I don't buy that he had any involvement in the Bamber case. The past few days it's been pinned on a farm hand, this bloke and any Tom, Dick or Harry that happened to be wandering the lanes (real or made up). For me, it was either Jeremy or Sheila or possibly both.

[Mr. Gee]

I believe Sheila shot herself. Then when police broke in the police tried to disarm the rifle they accidentally shot her again. At some time she was laid on her back on a hard floor and given cpr. This would explain the blood from her mouth and as her head was tilted backward it explains the blood running up to her eye. Her head was not in that position in any of the photos. Also at some point she was placed in the recovery position. This would explain the blood stain forming on the left side of her body as she lay on her left side.
The sequence of these actions I cannot confidently say?

[lookout]

I would know my dads voice out of a thousand. However, why was he calling Jeremy? (Not that he did).

As a sixth.

[Caroline]

To have him come over to be able to wipe the Bamber family off the face of the earth!

There was no call to the police....


As I said, I don´t really believe this, just answering back! 

So it wouldn't cross his mind that Jeremy might just call the police instead of coming over? And for those who believe that there from a call from 'someone' (Nevill or a Mr (or Mrs) X) to the police - why? It all gets a bit messy and completely hard to  believe.

[Caroline]

As a sixth.

Because?