Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?

[Jane]

AFB only worked at WHF for 2 months. In his statement he was said to be living at Cirencester Agri.College,yet his home was Osea caravan park.

Jimmyy Bell was the one who'd threatened June and Neville by throwing bullets at the car,saying next time they'll be in the .22 rifle he was holding,complete with moderator.
This threat was because of a 6 month prison sentence that Neville had served on him for abusing his wife.

Something doesn't sit right with this lot. Even the locals blamed Jimmy Bell for the WHF murders. He was a very violent man.

I think he was probably also a dead one before the murders, Lookout. Can I also add that Jimmy's case was too serious for Neville's remit and I believe Jimmy was sentenced at Crown Court.

[lookout]

 Ah,now I get it. Jimmy Bell, without the double-barrel hyphernated name was the guy that Neville sent down.
Was he also the one who was found by June,with Sheila,in the field ?

[Jane]

Ah,now I get it. Jimmy Bell, without the double-barrel hyphernated name was the guy that Neville sent down.
Was he also the one who was found by June,with Sheila,in the field ?

NO, Lookout. We have discussed this before. Neville probably wasn't responsible for sending JB to prison as the crime was too serious for a magistrate's court and it would have been referred to Crown Court. The probable reason for Jimmy being angry with Neville and June was that he believed his wife had disclosed their marital problems to June.

[Jan]

you will have to check these two things with Mike - but apparently Jeremy was heard driving away from the farm at 9.30 ISH.


Also I found this


A distant relative of Ralph Bamber, a man by the name of Ralph Neville, was working at whf at the time of the shootings, and he was staying at the caravan park, owned by the Boutflours, and the Eatons, Neville lived in South Africa...

 On the night of the shootings, his motor car was found parked up in the driveway of whf...

The reason his car was found there, was because Ralph Neville had been working late in the fields on the evening before the shootings, and he had taken the tractor and trailer, he had been working on, in the fields, back to his digs at Osea road caravan park...

Police were trying to link the hitchhiker statement to him...

What is odd about this though, is that Essex police allowed Neville to collect his car from the drive at whf, later that morning (7th), and as far as is known, by the beginning of September 1985, he had returned to live back in South Africa - why would he be hitchhiking on the morning of the shootings, if the police had given him his car back?

[Caroline]

you will have to check these two things with Mike - but apparently Jeremy was heard driving away from the farm at 9.30 ISH.


Also I found this


A distant relative of Ralph Bamber, a man by the name of Ralph Neville, was working at whf at the time of the shootings, and he was staying at the caravan park, owned by the Boutflours, and the Eatons, Neville lived in South Africa...

 On the night of the shootings, his motor car was found parked up in the driveway of whf...

The reason his car was found there, was because Ralph Neville had been working late in the fields on the evening before the shootings, and he had taken the tractor and trailer, he had been working on, in the fields, back to his digs at Osea road caravan park...

Police were trying to link the hitchhiker statement to him...

What is odd about this though, is that Essex police allowed Neville to collect his car from the drive at whf, later that morning (7th), and as far as is known, by the beginning of September 1985, he had returned to live back in South Africa - why would he be hitchhiking on the morning of the shootings, if the police had given him his car back?

The car belonged to Mr Faiser-Bell he says so in his statement - he left his car at WHF and drove the tractor home - home being one of the caravans. The rather mysterious Mr Ralf Neville sounds like a dead ringer for  Mr Faiser-Bell. Someone seems to have got things confused.

[Jan]

The car belonged to Mr Faiser-Bell he says so in his statement - he left his car at WHF and drove the tractor home - home being one of the caravans. The rather mysterious Mr Ralf Neville sounds like a dead ringer for  Mr Faiser-Bell. Someone seems to have got things confused.

Did someone hear him driving away fro the farm?

[Caroline]

Did someone hear him driving away fro the farm?

He returned the following day to pick it up  but was stopped by police and had to turn back. I guess he picked it up when he was allowed to.

This is his statement http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1935.0.html

[lookout]

you will have to check these two things with Mike - but apparently Jeremy was heard driving away from the farm at 9.30 ISH.


Also I found this


A distant relative of Ralph Bamber, a man by the name of Ralph Neville, was working at whf at the time of the shootings, and he was staying at the caravan park, owned by the Boutflours, and the Eatons, Neville lived in South Africa...

 On the night of the shootings, his motor car was found parked up in the driveway of whf...

The reason his car was found there, was because Ralph Neville had been working late in the fields on the evening before the shootings, and he had taken the tractor and trailer, he had been working on, in the fields, back to his digs at Osea road caravan park...

Police were trying to link the hitchhiker statement to him...

What is odd about this though, is that Essex police allowed Neville to collect his car from the drive at whf, later that morning (7th), and as far as is known, by the beginning of September 1985, he had returned to live back in South Africa - why would he be hitchhiking on the morning of the shootings, if the police had given him his car back?

This is exactly the confusion I had last night involving a farm worker. So it WASN'T AFB I was referring to--------------it was this guy,Ralph Neville.

[Jan]

I don't think it  is clear because the hitch hiker was never identified? There were clues in his statement but I don't think he was ever traced.

[lookout]

Do we know what time he left the farm that night ? Or am I further confused ? There was so much coming and going at that particular time. Also because both Ralph Neville and AFB had connections with South Africa. 

[Jan]

I think that some assumptions may have been made because it is not clear from the statement that the hitch hiker worked on the farm

[lookout]

Again,Jeremy could have the answer to that one as well.

[Mr. Gee]

What was Jeremy's usual time to start work?

[Jan]

forgot attachments

[susan]

Mr Gee Happy New Year.  I think Jeremy started work at 8 a.m.