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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2015, 07:57:PM »
You mean this guy? http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1935.0.html

He wasn't working with Jeremy and he finished work at 8pm - the tractor/trailer he was using wasn't the same one. He didn't take any tractor/trailer back to WHF the following morning, he drove it back to the field in Goldhanger then went to WHF but was turned away. So the question still remains, who brought the tractor/trailer that Jeremy was using?





Yes,that's the chap,Fraser-Bell.

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2015, 08:01:PM »
Caroline this is quite confusing who is the guy lookout said brought a trailer to the farm on the morning of the murders.  I really cannot see Ralph bringing back the trailer he would have made Jeremy do it. Caroline you have just answered my question via lookout thank you.
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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2015, 08:06:PM »
lookout thank you for that who are you going to ring?

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2015, 08:09:PM »
Fraser-Bell took the tractor back to WHF on the morning of the 7th of August at 07.45,saw the police there so went.
He'd taken the tractor to Goldhanger to do some work,and rather than go back to WHF,he went straight home to where he was staying at the caravan site.

What the difference in distance is between Goldhanger and the caravan site  x the distance from WHF to the caravan site is,I don't know.


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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2015, 08:13:PM »
Fraser-Bell took the tractor back to WHF on the morning of the 7th of August at 07.45,saw the police there so went.
He'd taken the tractor to Goldhanger to do some work,and rather than go back to WHF,he went straight home to where he was staying at the caravan site.

What the difference in distance is between Goldhanger and the caravan site  x the distance from WHF to the caravan site is,I don't know.


I would say equidistant..........ish :D but the caravan park is on the same road as Goldhanger so access would be easier.

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2015, 08:29:PM »

I would say equidistant..........ish :D but the caravan park is on the same road as Goldhanger so access would be easier.





Thanks April. So being as it's as broad as it's long,I wonder why FB didn't take the tractor/trailer back to WHF from Goldhanger on the night of the 6th ?

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2015, 08:40:PM »




Thanks April. So being as it's as broad as it's long,I wonder why FB didn't take the tractor/trailer back to WHF from Goldhanger on the night of the 6th ?


Lookout, PLEASE don'r quote me, but I have a feeling that the Bamber field furthest away from WHF practically abuts the back road to Goldhanger, very close to the main road. OR he didn't want to get caught by the boss and asked to do another job before he knocked off.

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2015, 08:56:PM »
Fraser-Bell took the tractor back to WHF on the morning of the 7th of August at 07.45,saw the police there so went.
He'd taken the tractor to Goldhanger to do some work,and rather than go back to WHF,he went straight home to where he was staying at the caravan site.

What the difference in distance is between Goldhanger and the caravan site  x the distance from WHF to the caravan site is,I don't know.

No, he took the tractor to Goldhanger and THEN went to WHF.
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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2015, 08:58:PM »
AFB only worked at WHF for 2 months. In his statement he was said to be living at Cirencester Agri.College,yet his home was Osea caravan park.

Jimmyy Bell was the one who'd threatened June and Neville by throwing bullets at the car,saying next time they'll be in the .22 rifle he was holding,complete with moderator.
This threat was because of a 6 month prison sentence that Neville had served on him for abusing his wife.

Something doesn't sit right with this lot. Even the locals blamed Jimmy Bell for the WHF murders. He was a very violent man.


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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2015, 08:59:PM »
Caroline this is quite confusing who is the guy lookout said brought a trailer to the farm on the morning of the murders.  I really cannot see Ralph bringing back the trailer he would have made Jeremy do it. Caroline you have just answered my question via lookout thank you.

Lookout thought that Frasier Bell too it back to WHF, but he didn't, he took the tractor he was using to Goldhanger. It's a different tractor to the one Jeremy was using but someone brought the trailer that Jeremy said he left in the field - so who did?
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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #55 on: January 01, 2015, 09:01:PM »
AFB only worked at WHF for 2 months. In his statement he was said to be living at Cirencester Agri.College,yet his home was Osea caravan park.

Jimmyy Bell was the one who'd threatened June and Neville by throwing bullets at the car,saying next time they'll be in the .22 rifle he was holding,complete with moderator.
This threat was because of a 6 month prison sentence that Neville had served on him for abusing his wife.

Something doesn't sit right with this lot. Even the locals blamed Jimmy Bell for the WHF murders. He was a very violent man.

This isn't Jimmy Bell, it's Fraser Bell.
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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2015, 09:02:PM »
Lookout, it seems from that, that the movements of all farm workers, full time and casual, have been accounted for.

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2015, 09:03:PM »
Lookout thought that Frasier Bell too it back to WHF, but he didn't, he took the tractor he was using to Goldhanger. It's a different tractor to the one Jeremy was using but someone brought the trailer that Jeremy said he left in the field - so who did?





As I said,Caroline,something isn't right here and my brain's got knots in it trying to work it out.

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2015, 09:05:PM »
His address is given as Cirencester  because he was a full-time student when he gave a statement - he would only have been about 19 or 20 years of age at the time.
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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #59 on: January 01, 2015, 09:09:PM »




As I said,Caroline,something isn't right here and my brain's got knots in it trying to work it out.

Not sure why you're confused Lookout. Alan Russell 'Fraser-Bell' is no relation to Jimmy 'Bell' - 'Fraser-Bell' is his surname not 'Bell'. He worked with someone called 'Alf' in a field at Goldhanger until 8pm, then drove the tractor home. He wasn't working with Jeremy and he didn't bring back the trailer that Jeremy was using - but someone did.
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