Sheila not fighting back. Why ?

[Adam]

Sheila might have simply frozen. If fully awake.

Who knows how a woman would react if she was confronted by a gunman in the dark.

[scipio_usmc]

Sheila might have simply frozen. If fully awake.

Who knows how a woman would react if she was confronted by a gunman in the dark.

and then he carried her around?  That is as stupid a suggestion as some of the more ridiculous ones that come from Jeremy supporters.  Either she was already in the bedroom, ran there to try to get away from Jeremy or he marched her in there at gunpoint.

 

[lookout]

Oh dear,it gets worse,and more desperate. Never mind,it'll all come out in the wash,said Neville,and so it will.

[Alias]

The location where Sheila was found used to bother me a lot. But not anymore. I guess it is perfectly plausible that (with JB as the perp) that Sheila rushed to the childrens room and was followed/chased and therefore tried to flee through adjoining box room into master bedroom. And was unfortunately caught. She may not have tried to fight off her attacker as she may have been frozen with fear and shock,especially if she had seen her boys and they were already dead?

That could have happened (if it was possible to enter the box room from the twins´ room), but she was not carried there!!!

[Adam]

and then he carried her around?  That is as stupid a suggestion as some of the more ridiculous ones that come from Jeremy supporters.  Either she was already in the bedroom, ran there to try to get away from Jeremy or he marched her in there at gunpoint.

 

Where did I say he carried her ?

She could only freeze if awake. And only be carried ten feet, if asleep.

Try to use you're common sense.

[Alias]

Where did I say he carried her ?

She could only freeze if awake. And only be carried ten feet, if asleep.

Try to use you're common sense.

You have said it many times - too many to count! 

[David1819]

Why not that spot ?

She had to be taken somewhere as she had to be out of her bedroom. Downstairs was too far, so the only options were with June or the twins.

Or she may have gone to the main bedroom herself.

I cannot see in either scenario the spot being of any importance or any motivating factors behind it.

If Jeremy was the perpetrator I cannot see him giving it any consideration that the location of Sheilas body was of any importance other than being on the premises and the death looking like a convincible suicide.

If Shelia was the perpetrator why would she care either? Schizophrenics don't behave logically she would have believed she was off to heaven ect Maybe she looked out the bedroom window and saw the police? Said her final prayers then finished herself?

There are so many variables and possibilities, Maybe she could have been hiding in one of the bedroom cupboards then Jeremy heard her crying and that's how he found her?

We can only speculate   

[Patti]

That could have happened (if it was possible to enter the box room from the twins´ room), but she was not carried there!!!

But would not Sheila know if access was not possible from her mothers room or vise versa? Was there not a wardrobe or dressing table blocking the access?  I think Colin mentions the door being blocked in his book....because that was Sheila's old room??

[Adam]

You have said it many times - too many to count! 

I was referring to my post 62.

People can only freeze if awake. Sheila may have been in the main bedroom. Then frozen when seeing a gunman in the dark.

[Alias]

But would not Sheila know if access was not possible from her mothers room or vise versa? Was there not a wardrobe or dressing table blocking the access?  I think Colin mentions the door being blocked in his book....because that was Sheila's old room??

If it was blocked she must have entered by stepping over the dead body of June. Why would Jeremy risk a total breakdown from Sheila?

[Alias]

I was referring to my post 62.

People can only freeze if awake. Sheila may have been in the main bedroom. Then frozen when seeing a gunman in the dark.

I think the lights were on. How would the killer be able to see where to shoot with ligths off?
Besides, she could hardly have "seen" the gunman in the dark.

[Adam]

I cannot see in either scenario the spot being of any importance or any motivating factors behind it.

If Jeremy was the perpetrator I cannot see him giving it any consideration that the location of Sheilas body was of any importance other than being on the premises and the death looking like a convincible suicide.

If Shelia was the perpetrator why would she care either? Schizophrenics don't behave logically she would have believed she was off to heaven ect Maybe she looked out the bedroom window and saw the police? Said her final prayers then finished herself?

There are so many variables and possibilities, Maybe she could have been hiding in one of the bedroom cupboards then Jeremy heard her crying and that's how he found her?

We can only speculate

If Bamber was the killer and did not give Sheila's location any consideration, that explains her being in the main bedroom.

Colin Caffell said Sheila would have shot herself with the twins.

[Alias]

If Bamber was the killer and did not give Sheila's location any consideration, that explains her being in the main bedroom.

Colin Caffell said Sheila would have shot herself with the twins.

That is his opinion, doesn´t mean that she would have.

[Adam]

I think the lights were on. How would the killer be able to see where to shoot with ligths off?
Besides, she could hardly have "seen" the gunman in the dark.

Bamber would know how to get around in the dark. He lived there for years. Turning the lights on would wake people.

Anyway it would not be pitch black. Seeing a figure in the dark holding a rifle is likely to freeze Sheila. Rather than making her fight. It is something no one ever expects will happen to them, so when it does no one has a pre planned plan of action. 

[Alias]

Bamber would know how to get around in the dark. He lived there for years. Turning the lights on would wake people.

Anyway it would not be pitch black. Seeing a figure in the dark holding a rifle is likely to freeze Sheila. Rather than making her fight. It is something no one ever expects will happen to them, so when it does no one has a pre planned plan of action.

So would shooting people. They would wake up no matter what. He would have needed to see properly - almost all the shots were hits. In the dark I doubt that could have been the case.