Jeremy's 'dirty protest'. Why ?

[Adam]

So why haven't his other girlfriends said anything bad about him?

No idea.

He was with Julie for a long time in the build up to the massacre. This was around the same time that Neville & June stopped financing Jeremy for extensive jaunts abroad. While at the same time starting to  pay for Sheila, the twins & medical bills. Jeremy reluctantly starting work at WHF.

Anyway, what's you're view of Jeremy's disgusting and immature protest ?

[Mr. Gee]

No idea.

He was with Julie for a long time in the build up to the massacre. This was around the same time that Neville & June stopped financing Jeremy for extensive jaunts abroad. While at the same time starting to  pay for Sheila, the twins & medical bills. Jeremy reluctantly starting work at WHF.

Anyway, what's you're view of Jeremy's disgusting and immature protest ?

Personally I wouldn't do such a thing.

[Adam]

Personally I wouldn't do such a thing.

Me neither. It degrades him to the level of the other category A prisoners.  And future 50 odd 'life means life' prisoners. All of whom had admitted their guilt. Except Jeremy.

[Mr. Gee]

Me neither. It degrades him to the level of the other category A prisoners.  And future 50 odd 'life means life' prisoners. All of whom had admitted their guilt. Except Jeremy.

That by itself must tell you something.

[Jan]

That by itself must tell you something.

I doubt it some how

I am coming to the conclusion that Adam has more of a personal agenda than he himself is ever going to "confess" to.

I think he should come clean , because then it would be much easier to appreciate his posts.

[guest7363]

If you want people who post in a thread to keep to the point then do not digress in the original post.
This is not Jeremy's "persuasiveness" as you put it. But other prisoners have a way of knowing if someone is guilty or not. Remember they are in each other's company for months maybe years on end. Prison is very difficult place to keep up appearances. Prisoners soon find out the truth about fellow prisoners.

They all protest their innocence thats why?  Oi, journo, come 'ere. I'm innocent, you should publicise my case."

Within seconds I'm surrounded by murderers, rapists and bank robbers - all making similar claims.

"Everyone's innocent in here," laughs my prison escort. I'm at HMP Full Sutton - a maximum security prison in the countryside a few miles from York. The Mirror has been given unprecedented access to the Category A jail, home to some of Britain's most notorious criminals.

[Jan]

Is it correct that no "rehabilitation" is offered if you do not admit guilt.

So for some it would be better to admit  guilt anyway because at least with some prisoners there would be a chance of getting out. whereas if you continue to protest innocence than there is little/no  chance of parole at all ?

[guest7363]

Is it correct that no "rehabilitation" is offered if you do not admit guilt.

So for some it would be better to admit  guilt anyway because at least with some prisoners there would be a chance of getting out. whereas if you continue to protest innocence than there is little/no  chance of parole at all ?

I get what your saying Jan, but his only chance is to protest his innocence he is not coming out even if he admits it? I note you said some prisoners.

[Alias]

Hunger strikes and "dirty protests" are pretty much all prisoners have in their power, since they are locked up and have limited access to money.
It is not uncommon, so even if it is gross to think about, it doesn´t really say anything about Jeremy other that he must have felt desparate at that point.

[Mr. Gee]

They all protest their innocence thats why?  Oi, journo, come 'ere. I'm innocent, you should publicise my case."

Within seconds I'm surrounded by murderers, rapists and bank robbers - all making similar claims.

"Everyone's innocent in here," laughs my prison escort. I'm at HMP Full Sutton - a maximum security prison in the countryside a few miles from York. The Mirror has been given unprecedented access to the Category A jail, home to some of Britain's most notorious criminals.

Well apparently according to Adam all the other lifers have confessed to their crimes. I was just expressing the fact that Bamber is the only one who hasn't?

[Mr. Gee]

So Justice if you are a journalist and you don't believe anything the prisoners say, what are you at Full Sutton for?

[Jan]

I get what your saying Jan, but his only chance is to protest his innocence he is not coming out even if he admits it? I note you said some prisoners.

No I think in his case there is no incentive to admit his guilt ( if he is guilty) because it will not make any difference to him . It would not mean he is released .

If he was guilty and admitted it , it would only mean he could stop the 30 year fight and constant battle with the authorities.

I think to be honest what ever the truth, he honestly does believe he is innocent and I think there are very few medical conditions that would explain that .

[guest7363]

So Justice if you are a journalist and you don't believe anything the prisoners say, what are you at Full Sutton for?

I have acquaintances who worked at Full Sutton York Mr Gee. When i say worked i don't mean as prison guards? But for now i will have to leave it at that?

[Jan]

I have acquaintances who worked at Full Sutton York Mr Gee. When i say worked i don't mean as prison guards? But for now i will have to leave it at that?

That's fair enough . But do you have any interesting insights as to how JB is regarded by others ?

[Adam]

That's fair enough . But do you have any interesting insights as to how JB is regarded by others ?

His badminton teacher says his backhand is improving.

He spends a lot of time in the computer room. Managing the OS or blogging that 'he's innocent but has no evidence to prove it'. Or with his two legal teams. Or responding to letters in CAPITALS. Or telling everyone he was a 'mummies boy' and that lots of people framed him. Or writing to politicians and journalists. In CAPITALS.

But no more dirty protests. It might put Jeremy in a bad light.