The Threat.

[JackiePreece]

Jan, all I can find, regarding Neil is ".........the letter names barrister Neil Bellis as one of his "protectors"........" so without knowing the context, I really don't feel justified in making ANY comment.

I can only believe that he felt really unnerved by what the letter said because it must be fairly obvious that someone who may feel himself close to release from a lengthy prison term, is hardly going to jeopardise that by issuing impotent threats.

April as we are getting everything out in the open maybe you would like to post how many times your friend contacted the company I work for
How many days and how many times in a day?

[Jane]

I read it.  Caroline suggested that had this spat not occurred, Jackies name would not have been mentioned in the newspaper article.  I wonder how she can be so sure.

Perhaps it's because we were given the wrong impression about what the relationship consisted of.

[Neil]

It was deleted. It's just you seem to try and school people on what the accusations were - but you didn't actually see it? I saw it. I know what Jackie claimed in that topic. Not what it has been changed to over time but what actually happened and what is now being said happened are two things. 

That's a question for Caroline, I guess. But I'd say that if Jackie hadn't of posted lies about MD on teh board, he wouldn't of had anything about her to add to the newpapers article, so the section about her couldn't have existed - it only existed because she'd tried to discredit him with the topic and would have gotten away with it if NGB hadn't of posted the actual conversation.

The Pm's would have still existed.  What would have stopped him sharing these with the newspaper?

[Jane]

The Pm's would have still existed.  What would have stopped him sharing these with the newspaper?

Why can Jackie not release the original pm/email in which she says PH contacts her to ask her to make contact with him.

[guest154]

The Pm's would have still existed.  What would have stopped him sharing these with the newspaper?

The PM's were just strange contact with the offer to promote his book, the behaviour on the board  is what took the PM's to another level and made them more strange, which is when he contacted her employer.

I would have contacted the employer straight away to ask what was going on and if it was indeed legal. Esepcially when she inserted the line about one of the magazines being called "One called Government Business" as that seems to insinuate the help she could provide may go deep and I wouldn't want my book/publisher attatched to an offer that could make the deal look dodgy.

But then again, I feel like I am attempting to answer a point Caroline raised and her take on it may be different than mine.

[Mr. Gee]

Someone made a good point a couple of pages back, about the original topic where Jackie claimed MD had contacted her first - where the PM's were first posted.


Mr Gee - did you actually even see that topic? I don't think you were here at the time.

Patti, did you see it? 

Yes I did but it disappeared.

[Patti]

I read it.  Caroline suggested that had this spat not occurred, Jackies name would not have been mentioned in the newspaper article.  I wonder how she can be so sure.

All I can say is that if this is revenge for a spat on a forum were there was confusion over a couple of PM's then its pretty harsh way of getting revenge. 

If we rewind back to the threatening letter it does not mention Jackie by name.  This was thrown in for reasons only known to PH.  However, the letter did make reference to NGB being Jeremy's protector and this is concerning. The whole drama unfolds to the point where the letter becomes unreal along with " you have already dodged one bullet"  "Jeremy is watching you"  "keep looking over your shoulder"

Anyone, in their right mind would have taken that letter to the police. What does he do? He talks to a contact from the police and goes to the press. He is none the wiser about whether or not he will face a bullet, because he has failed to take this matter seriously, and if he can't be serious then who can? 

[guest154]

All I can say is that if this is revenge for a spat on a forum were there was confusion over a couple of PM's then its pretty harsh way of getting revenge. 

If we rewind back to the threatening letter it does not mention Jackie by name.  This was thrown in for reasons only known to PH.  However, the letter did make reference to NGB being Jeremy's protector and this is concerning. The whole drama unfolds to the point where the letter becomes unreal along with " you have already dodged one bullet"  "Jeremy is watching you"  "keep looking over your shoulder"

Anyone, in their right mind would have taken that letter to the police. What does he do? He talks to a contact from the police and goes to the press. He is none the wiser about whether or not he will face a bullet, because he has failed to take this matter seriously, and if he can't be serious then who can? 

I was once told to watch my back if Bamber ever gets out of prison by a member of this forum (NOT IT WASN'T JACKIE!!)- I didn't go to the police over it.

He went to a police contact. He doesn't believe anything will come of it, it was a type written letter.

The fact he didn't make a formal complaint to the police seems to be being used as an easy and lazy excuse to say the letter isn't real.

[Jane]

All I can say is that if this is revenge for a spat on a forum were there was confusion over a couple of PM's then its pretty harsh way of getting revenge. 

If we rewind back to the threatening letter it does not mention Jackie by name.  This was thrown in for reasons only known to PH.  However, the letter did make reference to NGB being Jeremy's protector and this is concerning. The whole drama unfolds to the point where the letter becomes unreal along with " you have already dodged one bullet"  "Jeremy is watching you"  "keep looking over your shoulder"

Anyone, in their right mind would have taken that letter to the police. What does he do? He talks to a contact from the police and goes to the press. He is none the wiser about whether or not he will face a bullet, because he has failed to take this matter seriously, and if he can't be serious then who can? 

It also made reference to a female and her employer who he obviously was aware of. He didn't pick the name out of a hat.

[Patti]

It was deleted. It's just you seem to try and school people on what the accusations were - but you didn't actually see it? I saw it. I know what Jackie claimed in that topic. Not what it has been changed to over time but what actually happened and what is now being said happened are two things. 

That's a question for Caroline, I guess. But I'd say that if Jackie hadn't of posted lies about MD on teh board, he wouldn't of had anything about her to add to the newpapers article, so the section about her couldn't have existed - it only existed because she'd tried to discredit him with the topic and would have gotten away with it if NGB hadn't of posted the actual conversation.

Hey, I don't school anyone Mat. I have my own opinion like the rest of the members do on this forum. It is not my way to inflict any schooling to anybody.

I ma merely pointing out to everyone what Jackie said on the original PM and there was no offer to PH regarding 1000 emails at all. The article is clearly false on this, made up lies. If you can't see this then that is fine.  But please do have a snap at me. I have done nothing wrong, nor has anyone on this forum. None of us are to blame for that article other than PH himself. 

[Mr. Gee]

I was once told to watch my back if Bamber ever gets out of prison by a member of this forum (NOT IT WASN'T JACKIE!!)- I didn't go to the police over it.

He went to a police contact. He doesn't believe anything will come of it, it was a type written letter.

The fact he didn't make a formal complaint to the police seems to be being used as an easy and lazy excuse to say the letter isn't real.

Who was it who told you to watch your back?

[Patti]

I was once told to watch my back if Bamber ever gets out of prison by a member of this forum (NOT IT WASN'T JACKIE!!)- I didn't go to the police over it.

He went to a police contact. He doesn't believe anything will come of it, it was a type written letter.

The fact he didn't make a formal complaint to the police seems to be being used as an easy and lazy excuse to say the letter isn't real.

I don't fully understand what you are saying here Mat....

If he did not go to the police surely we have the right to be suspicious!  What has it gained by going to the press?  I can only speculate, this what is happening now....

[Patti]

It also made reference to a female and her employer who he obviously was aware of. He didn't pick the name out of a hat.

He was clever enough not to name her April, but the implication was strong enough to those who knew who he meant. 

[guest154]

Hey, I don't school anyone Mat. I have my own opinion like the rest of the members do on this forum. It is not my way to inflict any schooling to anybody.

I ma merely pointing out to everyone what Jackie said on the original PM and there was no offer to PH regarding 1000 emails at all. The article is clearly false on this, made up lies. If you can't see this then that is fine.  But please do have a snap at me. I have done nothing wrong, nor has anyone on this forum. None of us are to blame for that article other than PH himself. 

Not blaming you are anyone for the article, certainly didn't say that.
What she says is
"I have available to me a huge database of over 100,000 email address and I could probably give you loads of free advertising and marketing." 
Now if you can't see that - then that is fine.

Who was it who told you to watch your back?

For the sake of forum harmony, best I not say. But the comment was "I'd watch my back with posts like that if Bamber is ever released."

[Jane]

I meant really as that as  well as the article the times  when NGB  made it quite clear why MD/PH was banned , because of the threats he had made. He did make that point clear on the forum as far as I was aware and that was before the article.

Sorry Jan, I missed this. It was suffering from being last on the page

I can't recall what the spat was about which led to PH being banned, but at the end of it, both of them were displaying the sort of anger which only has one resolution.