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Offline Caroline

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« Reply #1125 on: October 29, 2014, 10:37:AM »
This thread is concerning the alleged death threat to PH, so are you inferring by those words that this alleged death threat is down to Jackie?
A good analogy to this is like someone offering to do someone else a good turn. But instead of that person being thankful for that good turn they say something like, "I thought that the good turn looked a bit suspicious so I contacted the bosses who employed that person and reported her"
The only strange bit in all this is that PH in the first instant asked Jackie to contact him and that she was to carry out her good work.
This alleged death threat is entirely divorced from the kind offer that Jackie gave to PH tp help him. Rather he has done a dastardly act and has implicated both her and ngb in this alleged death threat against him. The accused has the right to challenge their acuser and see proof that such a letter was sent in the first place. And if PH was taken to court he would be compelled to disclose this alleged letter so that it could be investigated fully.

He didn't contact her first, she said he did but it was shown to be untrue. However, as April said, if she has a first contact PM lets see it.
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« Reply #1126 on: October 29, 2014, 10:40:AM »
Define what you mean by everything else stems from this?

If you hadn't tried to discredit him, he would have had no reason to mention the incident - because it wouldn't have happened.
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« Reply #1127 on: October 29, 2014, 10:47:AM »
Is that a question or an insinuation?

You weren't here when all of this started and it may have begun as a good intention but after finding out MD's book might not be the publication she expected, it turned into an attempt to discredit and employer obviously thinks she did something wrong or he would have indicated that she almost lost her job. If she wants to help Jeremy, why doesn't she just concentrate on campaigning?


Of course, had she gone to her employers, at the start, and put the proposition to them, to which they gave their sanction, she may not now be in the position in which she is.

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« Reply #1128 on: October 29, 2014, 11:22:AM »
Is that a question or an insinuation?

You weren't here when all of this started and it may have begun as a good intention but after finding out MD's book might not be the publication she expected, it turned into an attempt to discredit and employer obviously thinks she did something wrong or he wouldn't have indicated that she almost lost her job. If she wants to help Jeremy, why doesn't she just concentrate on campaigning?
No it's a fact and a question. This thread is about an alleged death threat to PH. Are ypu saying in your post that Jackie instigated the death threat?

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« Reply #1129 on: October 29, 2014, 11:24:AM »
Blame Julie Mugford and the relatives.

Will make a change.
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« Reply #1130 on: October 29, 2014, 11:26:AM »
If you hadn't tried to discredit him, he would have had no reason to mention the incident - because it wouldn't have happened.
From what I did see and that was the first post that PH made it was he who denied that he knew Jackie by asking, "Who is this woman?" Unfortunately his post was deleted so I can't prove what I saw. It was then that Jackie posted that she didn't contact he.
It nevertheless from her own pm appears thatshe did make first contact. But it was his aggression towards her in that post that instigated this and his vertual accusation of her sending this alleged death threat.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2014, 11:27:AM by Mr. Gee »

Offline Caroline

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #1131 on: October 29, 2014, 11:45:AM »
From what I did see and that was the first post that PH made it was he who denied that he knew Jackie by asking, "Who is this woman?" Unfortunately his post was deleted so I can't prove what I saw. It was then that Jackie posted that she didn't contact he.
It nevertheless from her own pm appears thatshe did make first contact. But it was his aggression towards her in that post that instigated this and his vertual accusation of her sending this alleged death threat.

The comment "who is this woman" obviously mean 'who the hell ......'? It's rhetorical.
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« Reply #1132 on: October 29, 2014, 11:50:AM »
No it's a fact and a question. This thread is about an alleged death threat to PH. Are ypu saying in your post that Jackie instigated the death threat?

I don't believe my post says that at all - I didn't even mention the death threat!! I said that if she hadn't tried to discredit him HERE then she would never have been associated with the article because there would have been no incident to mention!!
« Last Edit: October 29, 2014, 11:52:AM by Caroline »
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« Reply #1133 on: October 29, 2014, 12:40:PM »
It all lies with the fault of the writer of that dreadful piece of defamation/slander/libel,whatever anyone would like to call it,very damaging to those concerned anyway.
I'd be right back at that " Sun " reporter with the answer !

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« Reply #1134 on: October 29, 2014, 12:48:PM »
One thing I will say, the reporter should have given Jackie a right of reply - he spoke to her boss and to NGB, I don't understand why he didn't ask for Jackie's side of things (re: the database stuff).
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« Reply #1135 on: October 29, 2014, 01:06:PM »
I don't believe my post says that at all - I didn't even mention the death threat!! I said that if she hadn't tried to discredit him HERE then she would never have been associated with the article because there would have been no incident to mention!!
This thread is about the alleged death threat. You said that Jackie instigated all this in the first place.

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« Reply #1136 on: October 29, 2014, 01:07:PM »
The comment "who is this woman" obviously mean 'who the hell ......'? It's rhetorical.
Sorry but I read it different. He was acting as if he was ignorant about her.

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« Reply #1137 on: October 29, 2014, 01:13:PM »
Well Caroline if he gave false information to a newspaper it could turn out to be very costly to him.

It's interesting that you like to defend someone that clearly threatens many people as shown in Mats post.

It's also interesting that you refer to the author as well respected, I would say that is not the case if people read what has been going on or Google his name.

I think most people on this forum have formed their own opinion of the author in question.

I am surprised you have not posted the letter sent from one of Jeremy's disciples as I am sure everyone on the forum is keen to see it
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« Reply #1138 on: October 29, 2014, 01:16:PM »
Sorry but I read it different. He was acting as if he was ignorant about her.



Yes, you're right. He was ignorant of her. He didn't know her from the man in the moon. That's EXACTLY what Caroline was saying.

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« Reply #1139 on: October 29, 2014, 01:18:PM »
Well Caroline if he gave false information to a newspaper it could turn out to be very costly to him.

It's interesting that you like to defend someone that clearly threatens many people as shown in Mats post.

It's also interesting that you refer to the author as well respected, I would say that is not the case if people read what has been going on or Google his name.

I think most people on this forum have formed their own opinion of the author in question.

I am surprised you have not posted the letter sent from one of Jeremy's disciples as I am sure everyone on the forum is keen to see it
Well respected by whom, her? She appears to be able to judge someone of good character just by talking to them a few times? ;D But as you said he appears to be in the habit of threatening people, even well respected people like ngb. We can only judge a person by what they actually do and not by what they profess.