The Threat.

[guest154]

If I was Jackie I would get someone who is good at drafting letters up and address it to the newspaper concerned. This has caused Jackie a great deal of unnecessary stress along with the added pressure regarding her position at work.  I would insist on a written apology.

There is no doubt that the PM from Jackie did not say that and that PM was posted here on the 19th September.

Then if I was Jackie I would leave it at that, because her job is more important to her than any argument on a forum. 

I'm not sure that's good advice. Her correspondance with Paul Harrison has already almost cost Jackie her job, it wouldn't be wise to further contact him in any way

I do believe that a letter is being written and possible further action being taken becase of some of the relevations of the article although it doesn't have anything to do with the actual letter that was sent.

[JackiePreece]

I'm not sure that's good advice. Her correspondance with Paul Harrison has already almost cost Jackie her job, it wouldn't be wise to further contact him in any way

I do believe that a letter is being written and possible further action being taken becase of some of the relevations of the article although it doesn't have anything to do with the actual letter that was sent.

Obviously you will be involved somewhere in this Mat
You are making posts as if you are in the authors confidence

No doubt you still support and believe everything PH has said

[guest154]

Obviously you will be involved somewhere in this Mat
You are making posts as if you are in the authors confidence

No doubt you still support and believe everything PH has said

I think you will have as much chance of finding the truth from the author as getting the truth from Mugford

In what?
I have nothing to do with Paul Harrison. I was weary of him before it was the popular thing to do. He threatened to sue me last Christmas. Have had no contact with him since.

[Patti]

I'm not sure that's good advice. Her correspondance with Paul Harrison has already almost cost Jackie her job, it wouldn't be wise to further contact him in any way

I do believe that a letter is being written and possible further action being taken becase of some of the relevations of the article although it doesn't have anything to do with the actual letter that was sent.

Hi Mat I have not suggested that she write to PH.  I suggested that she gets profession to write a letter to the newspaper...No way would I suggest a letter to PH. We know this has come from the reporter therefore this is first port of call. A letter would encourage a full apology for the reporter may have had his facts incorrect. Then I would leave it at that.   

[Patti]

In what?
I have nothing to do with Paul Harrison. I was weary of him before it was the popular thing to do. He threatened to sue me last Christmas. Have had no contact with him since.

Why did he threaten to sue you Mat?

[guest154]

Why did he threaten to sue you Mat?

He has threatened to sue a lot of people. I only found out  a couple months back that the PM he had sent me threatening action had been sent to a few other people too. I felt quite special until I realised that. 

I do believe him and the paper on the letter though - would be a silly thing to make up and I don't think the paper would print without evidence.

Hi Mat I have not suggested that she write to PH.  I suggested that she gets profession to write a letter to the newspaper...No way would I suggest a letter to PH. We know this has come from the reporter therefore this is first port of call. A letter would encourage a full apology for the reporter may have had his facts incorrect. Then I would leave it at that.   

 I know that. That's why I said contact him "in any way".

[Patti]

He has threatened to sue a lot of people. I only found out  a couple months back that the PM he had sent me threatening action had been sent to a few other people too. I felt quite special until I realised that. 

I do believe him and the paper on the letter though - would be a silly thing to make up and I don't think the paper would print without evidence.

 I know that. That's why I said contact him "in any way".

Mat you are not the only one he has threatened then!? Surely this in not the type of thing a gentleman would do.  Why on earth would he want to threaten a man with a plunger? Ha! 

It strikes me that if you cross this guy, he likes to issue threats...

Yes, I agree is would be a ludicrous thing to do to go to the press and tell such a tall story, but Jackie did not say she offered him access to emails, that part of that story is not true.

NGB posted her PM on here on the 19th and she clearly told him that she had access.

PH was claiming he was being threatened way before the 19th so why did he not make this an issue back then and go to the press. 

Sorry Mat but its a publicity stunt which will make his book controversial hence a good selling point. 

If he did receive a threat then all I can say is that he needed to take care of that threat by following it up.  You can only fail if you have tried. Not to try means you have given up. 

I just want to add that if the death threat is real I hope someone catches the b*****d.

[JackiePreece]

He has threatened to sue a lot of people. I only found out  a couple months back that the PM he had sent me threatening action had been sent to a few other people too. I felt quite special until I realised that. 

I do believe him and the paper on the letter though - would be a silly thing to make up and I don't think the paper would print without evidence.

 I know that. That's why I said contact him "in any way".

So PM lied about me and tried his best to get me the sack, yet you believe him about the threatening letter
Why then wasn't it posted in the paper and why didn't he report it to the police?
You say a paper wouldn't print something without evidence?
What evidence did they have of my messages?
PH had copies?

[Caroline]

So PM lied about me and tried his best to get me the sack, yet you believe him about the threatening letter
Why then wasn't it posted in the paper and why didn't he report it to the police?
You say a paper wouldn't print something without evidence?
What evidence did they have of my messages?
PH had copies?

Jackie, you made an allegation that MD contacted you trying to befriend you. It turned out that YOU made first contact offering to help with promotion for his book. I think once you found out that his book was going the other way, you back tracked and said he contacted you. It is clear from the messages posted during that afternoon, that you initiated contact. I am sure NGB will confirm this? Everything else, stems from this!

[JackiePreece]

Jackie, you made an allegation that MD contacted you trying to befriend you. It turned out that YOU made first contact offering to help with promotion for his book. I think once you found out that his book was going the other way, you back tracked and said he contacted you. It is clear from the messages posted during that afternoon, that you initiated contact. I am sure NGB will confirm this? Everything else, stems from this!

Define what you mean by everything else stems from this?

[lookout]

So far as I can gather,PH is still uncertain either way,which if you're writing a book about the crime,is the safest place to be. No commitment either way. Then leave it to the reader to decide for themselves.

[Mr. Gee]

Jackie, you made an allegation that MD contacted you trying to befriend you. It turned out that YOU made first contact offering to help with promotion for his book. I think once you found out that his book was going the other way, you back tracked and said he contacted you. It is clear from the messages posted during that afternoon, that you initiated contact. I am sure NGB will confirm this? Everything else, stems from this!

This thread is concerning the alleged death threat to PH, so are you inferring by those words that this alleged death threat is down to Jackie?
A good analogy to this is like someone offering to do someone else a good turn. But instead of that person being thankful for that good turn they say something like, "I thought that the good turn looked a bit suspicious so I contacted the bosses who employed that person and reported her"
The only strange bit in all this is that PH in the first instant asked Jackie to contact him and that she was to carry out her good work.
This alleged death threat is entirely divorced from the kind offer that Jackie gave to PH tp help him. Rather he has done a dastardly act and has implicated both her and ngb in this alleged death threat against him. The accused has the right to challenge their acuser and see proof that such a letter was sent in the first place. And if PH was taken to court he would be compelled to disclose this alleged letter so that it could be investigated fully.

[lookout]

 Well said,Mr G. It's been the most despicable act of poison that I've ever read.

[Jane]

This thread is concerning the alleged death threat to PH, so are you inferring by those words that this alleged death threat is down to Jackie?
A good analogy to this is like someone offering to do someone else a good turn. But instead of that person being thankful for that good turn they say something like, "I thought that the good turn looked a bit suspicious so I contacted the bosses who employed that person and reported her"
The only strange bit in all this is that PH in the first instant asked Jackie to contact him and that she was to carry out her good work.
This alleged death threat is entirely divorced from the kind offer that Jackie gave to PH tp help him. Rather he has done a dastardly act and has implicated both her and ngb in this alleged death threat against him. The accused has the right to challenge their acuser and see proof that such a letter was sent in the first place. And if PH was taken to court he would be compelled to disclose this alleged letter so that it could be investigated fully.

Well, surely then, all that's necessary is for Jackie to produce that "first instant" to prove that he contacted her to make contact with him.

[Caroline]

This thread is concerning the alleged death threat to PH, so are you inferring by those words that this alleged death threat is down to Jackie?
A good analogy to this is like someone offering to do someone else a good turn. But instead of that person being thankful for that good turn they say something like, "I thought that the good turn looked a bit suspicious so I contacted the bosses who employed that person and reported her"
The only strange bit in all this is that PH in the first instant asked Jackie to contact him and that she was to carry out her good work.
This alleged death threat is entirely divorced from the kind offer that Jackie gave to PH tp help him. Rather he has done a dastardly act and has implicated both her and ngb in this alleged death threat against him. The accused has the right to challenge their acuser and see proof that such a letter was sent in the first place. And if PH was taken to court he would be compelled to disclose this alleged letter so that it could be investigated fully.

Is that a question or an insinuation?

You weren't here when all of this started and it may have begun as a good intention but after finding out MD's book might not be the publication she expected, it turned into an attempt to discredit and employer obviously thinks she did something wrong or he wouldn't have indicated that she almost lost her job. If she wants to help Jeremy, why doesn't she just concentrate on campaigning?