The Threat.

[nugnug]

heres his bio.

http://www.murderarchiveuk.com/paul-harrison.html

[ngb1066]

I've missed this?

Still haven't the foggiest who this Paul bloke is?? 

His username here is Mason Doyle.

[Stephanie]

His username here is Mason Doyle.

Arrh thanks NGB...

[lookout]

Lookout, the whole point of it being in a Scottish publication is because PH lives on a remote island in  Scotland. They weren't interested in JB or NGB, much less, the forum, except as an afterthought. Their interest was in the Scottish connection.

Yes it would seem so,April. What they thought his book would churn up,I don't know.
In a way,it's " Much Ado about Nothing " as whoever's responsible didn't even want to make a name for himself. Then again,you wouldn't particularly want to put a name to it really,would you ? :D

[Stephanie]

In a way,it's " Much Ado about Nothing " as whoever's responsible didn't even want to make a name for himself. Then again,you wouldn't particularly want to put a name to it really,would you ? :D

 









It's propaganda.... Sad really.....

[Jane]

Yes it would seem so,April. What they thought his book would churn up,I don't know.
In a way,it's " Much Ado about Nothing " as whoever's responsible didn't even want to make a name for himself. Then again,you wouldn't particularly want to put a name to it really,would you ? :D

Lookout, PH is a crime writer. Presumably this is what he does to put food on the table. His subject for this book is Jeremy Bamber and the WHF murders. There have been pro Jeremy books written. There have been anti Jeremy books written. This then -with sincere apologies to PH- is just another book and to the wider world ie those who aren't into that particular genre and those who couldn't care less about a 30 year old case, on a scale of 1-10, MAY register a 1. To PH, kit COULD be the scariest thing that's ever happened but as he has gone to the trouble of finishing a book which seems to have caused him not just a few headaches, he WILL want to sell it..................If all authors who wanted to sell their books resorted to devious practices -which seems as if it may be the suggestion here- to do so, there'd be no room for any other news in our papers if they were the vehicle of choice.

[Jan]

Just a thought


there is another group of people who could be affected by the book even if PH does think he is guilty , also could watch the forum , and probably hate Jeremy . They also might not mind having a go at PH


perhaps this post from MD/PH might give a clue

" this case, I have come to the conclusion that the silencer evidence was completely fabricated, that is not to say Jeremy is innocent or guilty! There was manipulation of detail, and there still is because Essex cops wont release everything, not to hide Jeremy's innocence but their own failures. Essex police are one of the worst forces for recorded policing failures. Who is to blame for the concoction of the silencer evidence in the first place is anyones guess, it will likely never be known.

That said, I interviewed Stan Jones at length, he was an okay guy and I believed a lot of what he said, I tortured him in interview. Stan, in my opinion, was no where near as experienced or as clever as 'Taff' Jones, I have a ridiculous amount of excellent character reference on him (Taff), but Stan and Taff didn't actually get on. They were two different personalities. 

I confess, I don't like the police of today, I don't trust the police of today, I certainly don't trust the establishment or the criminal justice system or the court system, and I've worked in the lot. I'm not sure that Essex police of 1985 were as united as people believe, it was regarded, in the bigger scheme of policing as one of the UK's crappest forces. "


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[Roch]

Just a thought


there is another group of people who could be affected by the book even if PH does think he is guilty , also could watch the forum , and probably hate Jeremy . They also might not mind having a go at PH


perhaps this post from MD/PH might give a clue

" this case, I have come to the conclusion that the silencer evidence was completely fabricated, that is not to say Jeremy is innocent or guilty! There was manipulation of detail, and there still is because Essex cops wont release everything, not to hide Jeremy's innocence but their own failures. Essex police are one of the worst forces for recorded policing failures. Who is to blame for the concoction of the silencer evidence in the first place is anyones guess, it will likely never be known.

That said, I interviewed Stan Jones at length, he was an okay guy and I believed a lot of what he said, I tortured him in interview. Stan, in my opinion, was no where near as experienced or as clever as 'Taff' Jones, I have a ridiculous amount of excellent character reference on him (Taff), but Stan and Taff didn't actually get on. They were two different personalities. 

I confess, I don't like the police of today, I don't trust the police of today, I certainly don't trust the establishment or the criminal justice system or the court system, and I've worked in the lot. I'm not sure that Essex police of 1985 were as united as people believe, it was regarded, in the bigger scheme of policing as one of the UK's crappest forces. "


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My thoughts exactly.  In this case, we could end up with the following:

Dodgy coppers, dodgy relatives, dodgy Jeremy, dodgy Julie.   

As was once expressed to me by a well respected forum member from the guilty side.  If the truth of the case ever fully came to light, it's likely that nobody will come out of it looking good.

[lookout]

  Regardless of any " new " book being published by anyone,I fail to see any of them reaching a final conclusion because it clearly isn't known,except by those,such as " Taff " Jones and maybe one or two whose consciences  may have alerted them to come forward,anonymously,of course.

It'll be interesting to see if there are any differences in these " new " publications as opposed to the older ones written by Lomax,Wilkes and Powell. I can't see it myself. How can anyone know,30 years later,what they didn't already know in 1985/6. ? They'll still be based on suppositions,but with a different format.

Maybe MD is awaiting the next pending submissions,which,if the contents  are of Sheilas' medical history,could throw an entirely different light on the subject,so requiring a fair bit of editing,etc. so putting paid to the fact that it was impossible for this " slightly built,quiet,nervy " girl could/would carry out such a tragedy as was.

Sheila had told Dr Ferguson that she would have to be exorcised to get rid of the " Devil ",or she would HAVE to die ! Also that she was capable of murdering her sons. Because nobody took her " cry for help " seriously,she did just that. Sheila wouldn't have wanted to have done what she did,but the truth of the matter was that NOBODY was listening !!

[Jan]

Personally I don't think we should lower ourselves to their level.

I think we all agree that no  definite accusations of who sent the letter should be bandied about , because that is as bad as what the press have done IMO.

We all can have ideas and possibilities - but lets face it unless PH or ngb or Jackie want to take it further then we are not going to know are we?


There are a few people who just pop up on here just to stir things - so perhaps we should just try and ignore them.

I just hope that if new evidence  ( not hunches or assumptions) has been found then it has been directed through the proper channels.

I saw a post on here from March which said that the book had been finished and there was no inference that JB was guilty then - So I am guessing something has happened between then and now.

[tyler]

The Author has claimed to have discovered evidence that proves without a doubt Jeremy's guilt. Evidence that three Police forces appear to have missed. I would think that to be accepted as definitive proof it would have to be something concrete and since all? of the potential evidence has been destroyed,I cant see how anything can be proved without a doubt. I found it interesting that the Author appeared to change his stance on the case around the same time as an 'alleged' falling out with the Campaign Team. I wondered if the term 'Bamber's disciples' in the article was a reference to the Campaign Team. Was it an insinuation that one of them may have been responsible for the threatening letter? I have noted that some others feel someone from the CT may be responsible. Why also the reference to JP in the article? Imo,the whole article appears to be a revenge attack on all of those that the Author feels have slighted him in some way. And of course,it has raised some publicity for the forthcoming book.

[Patti]

Personally I don't think we should lower ourselves to their level.

I think we all agree that no  definite accusations of who sent the letter should be bandied about , because that is as bad as what the press have done IMO.

We all can have ideas and possibilities - but lets face it unless PH or ngb or Jackie want to take it further then we are not going to know are we?


There are a few people who just pop up on here just to stir things - so perhaps we should just try and ignore them.

I just hope that if new evidence  ( not hunches or assumptions) has been found then it has been directed through the proper channels.

I saw a post on here from March which said that the book had been finished and there was no inference that JB was guilty then - So I am guessing something has happened between then and now.

Well said Jan

I would think a writer would have great difficulty in changing the direction on where the book is leading one too.

From what PH told me it was not a book set out to prove innocence or guilt, but to highlight inaccuracies performed from the onset to the present. 

From what I have gathered PH has been to Canada and, New Zealand and interviewed the majority of those who were involved at the time, including the infermus  Sgt Jones.

It will interesting reading, that's if the book ever hits the shelves.  We have been waiting for this book for a long time.  It appears to have its setback in a legal capacity. What that is we don't know. 

[Mr. Gee]

The Author has claimed to have discovered evidence that proves without a doubt Jeremy's guilt. Evidence that three Police forces appear to have missed. I would think that to be accepted as definitive proof it would have to be something concrete and since all? of the potential evidence has been destroyed,I cant see how anything can be proved without a doubt. I found it interesting that the Author appeared to change his stance on the case around the same time as an 'alleged' falling out with the Campaign Team. I wondered if the term 'Bamber's disciples' in the article was a reference to the Campaign Team. Was it an insinuation that one of them may have been responsible for the threatening letter? I have noted that some others feel someone from the CT may be responsible. Why also the reference to JP in the article? Imo,the whole article appears to be a revenge attack on all of those that the Author feels have slighted him in some way. And of course,it has raised some publicity for the forthcoming book.

Without taking into consideration whether a letter was sent or not I think the article itself sounded vindictive and accusing of certain people totally without any proof whatsoever.

[Jan]

It does seem a shame that he probably had a falling out with just one person and then for some unknown reason others have to be dragged into it all. And now everyone and their dog is wading in for the opportunity of an argument. The more I think about it the more I think- there are sadly a lot of possibilities of who could be involved.

[nugnug]

its got to be somone who knows him how else would they he doded a bullet.