The Threat.

[lookout]

 Or was it a PM that lost its way ? Mmm?

[ngb1066]

It might seem like a stupid question but there is a poster with the user name Neil.  He and NGB are different people correct or are they both NGB?

We are different people.  This has sometimes caused confusion, even with PMs going to the wrong person!  My first name is Neil and I am the one referred to in the article.

[lookout]

Or was it a PM that lost its way ? Mmm?

Oh dear,you'll have to be more careful with your p/m's next time.

[ngb1066]

Protector is a strange word to use anyway if you ask me. Defender would be more accurate for anyone running around pressing the case he is innocent.  A protector suggests a different relationship than merely stumping on his behalf.
 

I agree.  It makes it sound more sinister.

 

[Jo]

I'm sorry but I think this letter is a figment of this guys imagination and the press just ran with it.
If and I say if his safety was at risk, the last place you'd publish it is anywhere public and if he thought it genuine, he should have placed it in a clean, unused clear food bag and gone straight to the police station or called them to visit him.
The thing I find most disturbing is that NGB got mentioned (if the letter is real at all, if it isn't then that's very nasty) and I see no reason why they'd have to mention a 3rd party or issue threats. I can't see the Krays et al issuing threats and then doing, it takes the element of surprise out etc, I don't think many potential murderers act like this and the whole thread to me is a disaster, discussing theories and who done and said what. Its just putting fuel on the fire, I bet this guy is sat in delight at the fact that he's banned and there's a thread about him and people arguing. Is it worth it? Really?

[Adam]

It seems that having two named people isn't enough. Could this be why you tried to implicate Jansus?

Just saying what a poster on Red said.

That him and another guilter had their homes, work places and families stalked by two current posters on blue.

[nugnug]

I'm sorry but I think this letter is a figment of this guys imagination and the press just ran with it.
If and I say if his safety was at risk, the last place you'd publish it is anywhere public and if he thought it genuine, he should have placed it in a clean, unused clear food bag and gone straight to the police station or called them to visit him.
The thing I find most disturbing is that NGB got mentioned (if the letter is real at all, if it isn't then that's very nasty) and I see no reason why they'd have to mention a 3rd party or issue threats. I can't see the Krays et al issuing threats and then doing, it takes the element of surprise out etc, I don't think many potential murderers act like this and the whole thread to me is a disaster, discussing theories and who done and said what. Its just putting fuel on the fire, I bet this guy is sat in delight at the fact that he's banned and there's a thread about him and people arguing. Is it worth it? Really?

well if he has made it up then niel would have a right to take legal action aganst him.

i think he would know thst so i dont think he would.

[lookout]

Patti the only thing lookout did wrong was not to tell the truth about her source.  It is an insult to my intelligence the feeble source she gave me I know exactly what went on and I find it disappointing and very sad .

Erm," not to tell the truth about my source ?".I couldn't have made it any clearer where my information came from,I didn't make it up. What's up ? Was it because you hadn't seen it first ? What's your problem ?
It doesn't surprise me in the least that you go behind my back with your p/m,ing,but do try and not make something out of nothing.
I don't even know what yout post is supposed to mean------------please explain. An insult to your intelligence ? What's that supposed to mean ?
Come on,out with it,tell me your problem,because I'm buggered if I know what it is. I've got NOTHING to hide,have you ?

[lookout]

I will tell you now Susan that Lookout has not lied about where she got her source from it is freely available on the internet. Anyone could have found it by googling. I am not sure what you are trying to say.

Any further attacks on each other and the thread will be locked. By all means discuss the newspaper release and its contents.

Apologies for my further posts,Patti,but Susan is deliberately implicating me in this matter now and I see she is conspicuous by her absence of answering why she's suddenly turned on me like this.?
I will stand up and be counted as I'm never afraid of the truth.

[Aunt Agatha]

I put up my posts yesterday to give you guys an insight to threats from Bamber supporters or their friends. It was not to get at Grahame, we had moved on and I do not bare grudges in the least. My post was to show one thing only, yet, I don't think ANYBODY on here got the just of my point:
I say it more clearly now:  under serious threats from Jeremy's supporters I went to the Police!  I did not go to a newspaper (as I had no book or anything to promote as out Jeremy).  I travelled to Redditch twice, with my sons and paid to stay in hotels. No expense was spurred trying desperately to get the police to act as I was so frightened.  Therefore, I am more inclined to believe that no such letter was received. He may have received an email or something from one or more supporters but I doubt there would have been a threat, otherwise, I do believe he would have had it recorded and it would certainly go in his favour when promoting the book...especially if a copy of it where shown in the book itself....with a crime ref no.

Patti, I knew who was behind my threats, I knew their addresses to, however, I do not take the law into my ow hands.... It's for the police to chase them. Also, I would not lower myself to their level. The police did nothing at all. With all the threats and bullying by his supporters I began to have suicidal thoughts (for the first time in my life). I eventually upped sticks and moved, twice, so as not to be found. I closed my social media accounts and stayed away for a couple of years. I could not go online at all. It took a couple of years to recover ... And seldom do I shout about it. Sorry Grahame....

Please do not presume patti that I did not do all I could within the law!

[lookout]

AA,I don't think anyone here thinks ill of you. It's some idiot who's TRYING to pose as someone else,just to cause mischief. Believe me,they'd be the first one/s to shout if it happened to them. It's the work of a coward with nothing else better to do,and anyone who acts in this way,invariably comes to a sticky end.xx

[Caroline]

He has to be an arch manipulator to be a psychopath, Mr Gee and
he has to be a psychopath to have carried out the crime.  Think that's the reasoning
for at least some guilters.

No, that's not reasoning enough, that's only one aspect of a much larger debate.

[lookout]

Thank you lookout. I was unable to return to this site after my last post yesterday, due to work.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but was something said about me on here? Other than Grahame, did I upset anybody as that was not my intention at all. I will try and have quick read thru.

Thank you for responding. X

Not to my knowledge did you upset anyone.Admittedly I haven't read all the posts myself,but I didn't see anything untoward. x

[Jan]

I put up my posts yesterday to give you guys an insight to threats from Bamber supporters or their friends. It was not to get at Grahame, we had moved on and I do not bare grudges in the least. My post was to show one thing only, yet, I don't think ANYBODY on here got the just of my point:
I say it more clearly now:  under serious threats from Jeremy's supporters I went to the Police!  I did not go to a newspaper (as I had no book or anything to promote as out Jeremy).  I travelled to Redditch twice, with my sons and paid to stay in hotels. No expense was spurred trying desperately to get the police to act as I was so frightened.  Therefore, I am more inclined to believe that no such letter was received. He may have received an email or something from one or more supporters but I doubt there would have been a threat, otherwise, I do believe he would have had it recorded and it would certainly go in his favour when promoting the book...especially if a copy of it where shown in the book itself....with a crime ref no.

Patti, I knew who was behind my threats, I knew their addresses to, however, I do not take the law into my ow hands.... It's for the police to chase them. Also, I would not lower myself to their level. The police did nothing at all. With all the threats and bullying by his supporters I began to have suicidal thoughts (for the first time in my life). I eventually upped sticks and moved, twice, so as not to be found. I closed my social media accounts and stayed away for a couple of years. I could not go online at all. It took a couple of years to recover ... And seldom do I shout about it. Sorry Grahame....

Please do not presume patti that I did not do all I could within the law!

Excuse me asking this question - but why were you getting such appalling treatment? I thought you were a supporter of Jeremy? Not that ir matters either way as no one should have to put up with what you have described , but I dont quite understand?

[nugnug]

i think i know who sent that letter but im not going to say until im sure.

and i think the sender can be easly identfied.