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Mr. Gee

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #240 on: October 21, 2014, 09:42:PM »
I would like to see the letter!

BTW, who has a typewriter these days?
Well that just shows you how some people just pluck things out of the air in order to back up their arguments.

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #241 on: October 21, 2014, 09:43:PM »
is she "old"?  just seems like something an older person would do.
Hey don't go blaming me. ;D

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« Reply #242 on: October 21, 2014, 09:44:PM »
The are my views as well and it is evident that you also foresaw the trouble it would cause and alas it has come to pass. I have said on many occasions that if I believed him to be guilty then of course I would never support him. I don't support him now. But I do support the idea of justice and as you can see from some of the posts written by some on here it is quite evident that there are a few who like to accuse the innocent without proof just because it looks like it to them. I must confess I am shocked to realise that there still are people around who will condemn innocent people without proof as you have seen how Jackie has been villified on here today. It is a disgraceful state of affairs to do such a thing especially when it is those very people who claim to deduce the truth from the facts and who also boast to have studied this case and have found Bamber guilty beyond any doubt at all and not only that but condemn Jackie for sending a letter completely without proof at all. I simply cannot get over that. Such an unjust and infair thing to do, just because they don't like her.
As I said before if there is even a million to 1 chance that Bamber is innocent I will search exhaustively and turn things over and over in my mind until I am sure. I try not to think in a shallow way as appears to be the habit of some. One other thing puts me off most of the guilters that I have come across in the past and a few here is the rude and haughty and self righteous way in which they refer to those who disagree with them. As soon as I detect that attitude in people my guard goes up for these are the basest traits in human nature and never to be admired.


very honest post Mr Gee.

No one - including Jeremy should be accused without proof of sending this letter.

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #243 on: October 21, 2014, 09:49:PM »
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/524489/Mass-killer-Jeremy-Bamber-s-threat-to-Scots-author-Harrison

theres nothing here about a birthday card.

can you rember where you heard about the card susan.

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #244 on: October 21, 2014, 09:57:PM »
"He added: "Having studied and worked within psychological and criminal profiling since the late 1980s, I know how the criminal mind works. Jeremy Bamber may be incarcerated within Full Sutton prison but he still manipulates and has disciples committed to helping him in any way they can."



Do you know I can honestly say - that I have written to Jeremy and he has never in my case tried to manipulate or ask for anything whatsoever.

I know I cant speak for others and perhaps Caroline might have a different view .

But the comment above does not reflect my experience what so ever.


And I have always made it clear I am still asking questions so I am in no way absolutely convinced of his innocence.

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #245 on: October 21, 2014, 10:01:PM »
Same Jansus you can ask him absolutely anything and get a reply
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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #246 on: October 21, 2014, 10:06:PM »
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/524489/Mass-killer-Jeremy-Bamber-s-threat-to-Scots-author-Harrison

theres nothing here about a birthday card.

can you rember where you heard about the card susan.

I wondered too, but doesn´t susan have some contact with Paul Harrison?

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He got this letter a month ago, it says in the article. He cannot have taken the threat seriously - or what. I find this whole thing so confusing and saddening.  :'(

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« Reply #247 on: October 21, 2014, 10:34:PM »
wich has to make you wonder why he has chosen to make a fuss about it now.

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« Reply #248 on: October 21, 2014, 10:36:PM »
"He added: "Having studied and worked within psychological and criminal profiling since the late 1980s, I know how the criminal mind works. Jeremy Bamber may be incarcerated within Full Sutton prison but he still manipulates and has disciples committed to helping him in any way they can."



Do you know I can honestly say - that I have written to Jeremy and he has never in my case tried to manipulate or ask for anything whatsoever.

I know I cant speak for others and perhaps Caroline might have a different view .

But the comment above does not reflect my experience what so ever.


And I have always made it clear I am still asking questions so I am in no way absolutely convinced of his innocence.
Totally totally untrue. I don't trust him and that statement is one of the reasons why. It is an out and out lie.

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #249 on: October 21, 2014, 10:57:PM »
Totally totally untrue. I don't trust him and that statement is one of the reasons why. It is an out and out lie.

It is absolutely true that Jeremy manipulates people.  It is also true though that such people allow themselves to be manipulated. 

Manipulating someone into sending the threatening letter would not really help him though so I doubt he is behind it.  It would not help him because it has little chance of actually getting Harrison to abandon the project.

While people claim some guilter would do it they have nothing to gain either. Only some wacko supporter could think that it could benefit trying to silence Harrison and be crazy enough to think the threat could work or did it just to annoy him.  Otherwise it was someone who wanted to help Harrison by giving him press attention.  Those are the realistic choices someone looking to help get him press coverage or a wacko Jeremy supporter trying to annoy him or scare him.

After seeing Jackie's irraitonal behavior I can see why some would suspect her.  She is pretty wacky and defends Jeremy despite no evne knowing or caring about the evidence and facts but I have no idea if she would be wacky enough to try to annoy him and get back at him by sending such a stupid letter or not.  I don't know enough about her to try making a judgment either way.

Some crazy lady got stuck in a chimney trying to breka into a house of a guy she met online and had a couple of dates with.  I bet no one who knew her predicted she would do anything that stupid or crazy.  People who are emotional do all sorts of stupid things. I have no idea how many passionate wacko supporters Jeremy has.  So no idea how big the pool of suspects could be. It doesn't have to be a long term supporter it could be someone who just got involved recently. The chiney wacko didn't date him much or know him long. 

As others pointed out stamps and envelopes are no longer licked and even when they were careful people used water, they had sponges especially for the task.  At any rate that only works if you have the DNA of the culpret on file or get a warrant for same.  So you need probable cause anyway.

Fingerprints also need to be on file and often are hard to lift from paper and can be avoided. The chance of ever finding out is nil unless the person does something else.

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #250 on: October 21, 2014, 11:03:PM »
its pretty obvos who ever wrote it was trying to implicate neil only someone in the guilty camp would want to do that.

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« Reply #251 on: October 21, 2014, 11:13:PM »
Totally totally untrue. I don't trust him and that statement is one of the reasons why. It is an out and out lie.


well its pretty jeremy couldent any of his supporters to do that.

and with paul harrisons exeprience he should know this.

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« Reply #252 on: October 21, 2014, 11:31:PM »
It could also depend on the strength of his new claimed evidence that proves it was not a MOJ. I would think if an author is going to sell a book about a true crime then every bit research should be backed up and not based on hearsay....or a wallet lol Sorry Caroline could not resist that.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
ha, ha, nor would I expect you to  ::)
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« Reply #253 on: October 21, 2014, 11:55:PM »
"He added: "Having studied and worked within psychological and criminal profiling since the late 1980s, I know how the criminal mind works. Jeremy Bamber may be incarcerated within Full Sutton prison but he still manipulates and has disciples committed to helping him in any way they can."



Do you know I can honestly say - that I have written to Jeremy and he has never in my case tried to manipulate or ask for anything whatsoever.

I know I cant speak for others and perhaps Caroline might have a different view .

But the comment above does not reflect my experience what so ever.


And I have always made it clear I am still asking questions so I am in no way absolutely convinced of his innocence.

I agree that he has never asked me for anything. I have always found him polite and to answer 'most' questions I have asked. If anyone asked me 'do you like Jeremy Bamber'? I would have to answer 'yes'. Does that make him innocent - no!
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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #254 on: October 22, 2014, 12:30:AM »
would you say he tried to manipulate you in any way.