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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2014, 02:33:PM »
Paul Harrison doesn't talk about NGB, the letter mentions NGB. NGB confirms in the article he has nothing to do with the letter, and of course I believe him - he isn't stupid. Who ALWAYS mentions NGB on the forum to back up their posts?

You may believe whatever Jackie tells you, Grahame - but those who have been stalked by her now that this is HER behaviour.

The letter was even postmarked from where she lives.
How do you know the letter was postmarked were Jackie lives? All it says is that it has an Essex post mark. Mat I imlore you do not go down this route of false accusation.

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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2014, 02:35:PM »
well they will soon trace it and then we will know.

bloody stupid thing to do who ever did it.
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2014, 02:41:PM »
Paul Harrison doesn't talk about NGB, the letter mentions NGB. NGB confirms in the article he has nothing to do with the letter, and of course I believe him - he isn't stupid. Who ALWAYS mentions NGB on the forum to back up their posts?

You may believe whatever Jackie tells you, Grahame - but those who have been stalked by her now that this is HER behaviour.

The letter was even postmarked from where she lives.
He certainly does. This is the shockingly false statement that he makes, "The letter names barrister Neil Bellis as one of Jeremy's "protectors" but last night he said he was shocked by the fact that he had been highlighted in this way."
Paul Harrison should know better especially if he has allegedly been in contact with Bamber for 3 years. If he had then he would have known the truth about ngb.
But of course I might have expected you to come up with all these false accusations about people just because you don't like them. Where is your sense of fairness and justice in all this. Please desist from making false accusations about someone without any proof whatsoever.


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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2014, 02:43:PM »
He certainly does. This is the shockingly false statement that he makes, "The letter names barrister Neil Bellis as one of Jeremy's "protectors" but last night he said he was shocked by the fact that he had been highlighted in this way."


How is that Paul commenting on NGB? He says the LETTER mentions NGB. The second part of you quote "shocked by the fact he had been highlighted in this way" is NGB speaking. In fairness to you, Grahame, you're blinded by blinkers - friendship.

well they will soon trace it and then we will know.


I doubt it. The creep went to the trouble of using a type writer, meaning they were nervous about their handwriting being matched/seen. They likely just stuck a stamp on it and put it in a post box.

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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2014, 02:47:PM »
when the licked ghe stamp that would of left there dna on it.

there fingerprins will probebly be on it as well.

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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2014, 02:48:PM »
This is a dreadful letter and it is something which in my opinion should be thoroughly investigated by the police.  I note that Paul Harrison has decided not to pursue this through the police, which I find surprising.  At face value this amounts to a threat to kill or at least cause serious physical harm to Paul Harrison.

Obviously since I am named in this article I was aware of it.  The journalist contacted me for comment.  He read me the parts of the letter which referred to me and I gave my reaction to it.  The journalist has fairly summarised my comments, so I make no objection to that.  However, the main thrust of the article is Paul Harrison's view that Jeremy Bamber himself was behind this threat.  I am absolutely convinced that he had no knowledge of it whatsoever and that he will be appalled that it was sent.  My reasons for that view are as follows.

First, Jeremy Bamber has nothing to gain from making threats to Paul Harrison, and a lot to lose.  He mail is censored and his phone calls are monitored and recorded.  Any suggestion that he encouraged this would have serious consequences for him in prison.

Second, a letter written at the instigation of Jeremy Bamber or someone close to him would not refer to me, and would certainly not portray me in the way in which the letter did.  In summary it suggested that I would be the barrister who would secure his freedom.  As anyone who had been a member of this forum for a while will know, I am a non practising barrister, not having been in practice for nearly 20 years.  Even if I were asked, which I have not been, I would not be in a position to accept instructions.  As I have described here, my involvement in the case has been limited.  At the request of Jeremy Bamber and Simon McKay I provided some assistance in relation to the last final submissions to the CCRC.  I subsequently had some very limited input into the Judicial Review application.  This was all on an informal basis.  Since then I have had no involvement whatsoever.  I have had no input into the latest submissions and do not even know what they contain.  As has been posted here Simon McKay is no longer acting for Jeremy Bamber.  I do not even know who are in the new legal team.

Third, the letter contains a reference to "using the public sector" which is clearly a reference to the publisher referred to in the article.  The employee concerned was not named, I imagine for legal reasons.  That employee has to the best of my knowledge had no contact with Jeremy Bamber or his campaign team for over two years. 

For these reasons it is clear that Jeremy Bamber was not behind this letter.  The question therefore is, who sent it and why?  The clear inference from the article is that the letter was linked to the employee of the publishing company.  I have to admit that when first told of this I had the same thought, although I did not express any view on it to the journalist.  However, when I read the article and realised what it contained apart from the references to me I changed my view.  If the employee, who had come within a hair's breadth of losing her job, had written this letter I believe the last thing she would have done would be to include a reference in it to "using the public sector", thus directly linking to her employer.

I doubt if we will ever know who sent this letter.  My firm view is that it was sent with the intention of harming Jeremy Bamber, me and the employee of the publishing company. 


       
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2014, 02:51:PM »
It MIGHT occur to me, had its' author's employer and certain other "facts" not been mentioned, that the letter may NOT have been written by a Jeremy supporter, but by someone who wishes him to be seem in a bad -sorry WORSE- light, possibly because they think he's guilty OR seeking revenge for some real or perceived sleight from him.......................on the other hand, if the author of the letter is to be believed, Jeremy may well be heading Mafia England or even MI's 5/6 from the confines of his cell.

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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2014, 02:53:PM »
Yeah, that's a copy and paste. Read the whole thing if you get chance.

Letter sent from Essex. Putting two and two together it's obvious who has sent this letter to Paul. And she needs removing from this forum.
Not a supporter of Bamber at all, more damaging than anything else.

Essex is a big county.  It is obvious what it is intended should be believed about the identity of the peson who sent the letter, but that does not mean that it was in fact sent by her.

 

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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2014, 02:53:PM »
Hello Mr. Gee I am lost who is Robertson?

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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2014, 02:55:PM »
Well if you can't see the accusation of Robertson by calling ngb a jeremy Bamber "protector" then I'm not going to argue with you about it. But it will of course show other members of the forum your unjust accusations of Jackie without any proof whatsoever. It certainly opens up a window into your heart and the vindictive ways in which you think. Very sad that you cannot see it yourself.

The article says the letter called NGB a protector, Grahame. Not Robertson. Keep up.

when the licked ghe stamp that would of left there dna on it.


you don't lick stamps anymore, they are sticky.

The clear inference from the article is that the letter was linked to the employee of the publishing company.  I have to admit that when first told of this I had the same thought, although I did not express any view on it to the journalist.  However, when I read the article and realised what it contained apart from the references to me I changed my view.  If the employee, who had come within a hair's breadth of losing her job, had written this letter I believe the last thing she would have done would be to include a reference in it to "using the public sector", thus directly linking to her employer.



       

I agree with you, Bamber will of had absolutely no knowledge of the letter - far too much to lose. But you have to be.... crazy, not to know who it was Neil.

Who attacks people who say ANYTHING negative about Bamber?
Who often takes forum/internet matters into the real world?
Who had a spat with Paul Harrison?
Who lives in Essex?

You may know members that fit into one or more of those catergories - but there is only ONE person who fits into them all.

Frankly, I think your judgement is off on this.



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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2014, 02:55:PM »
This is a dreadful letter and it is something which in my opinion should be thoroughly investigated by the police.  I note that Paul Harrison has decided not to pursue this through the police, which I find surprising.  At face value this amounts to a threat to kill or at least cause serious physical harm to Paul Harrison.

Obviously since I am named in this article I was aware of it.  The journalist contacted me for comment.  He read me the parts of the letter which referred to me and I gave my reaction to it.  The journalist has fairly summarised my comments, so I make no objection to that.  However, the main thrust of the article is Paul Harrison's view that Jeremy Bamber himself was behind this threat.  I am absolutely convinced that he had no knowledge of it whatsoever and that he will be appalled that it was sent.  My reasons for that view are as follows.

First, Jeremy Bamber has nothing to gain from making threats to Paul Harrison, and a lot to lose.  He mail is censored and his phone calls are monitored and recorded.  Any suggestion that he encouraged this would have serious consequences for him in prison.

Second, a letter written at the instigation of Jeremy Bamber or someone close to him would not refer to me, and would certainly not portray me in the way in which the letter did.  In summary it suggested that I would be the barrister who would secure his freedom.  As anyone who had been a member of this forum for a while will know, I am a non practising barrister, not having been in practice for nearly 20 years.  Even if I were asked, which I have not been, I would not be in a position to accept instructions.  As I have described here, my involvement in the case has been limited.  At the request of Jeremy Bamber and Simon McKay I provided some assistance in relation to the last final submissions to the CCRC.  I subsequently had some very limited input into the Judicial Review application.  This was all on an informal basis.  Since then I have had no involvement whatsoever.  I have had no input into the latest submissions and do not even know what they contain.  As has been posted here Simon McKay is no longer acting for Jeremy Bamber.  I do not even know who are in the new legal team.

Third, the letter contains a reference to "using the public sector" which is clearly a reference to the publisher referred to in the article.  The employee concerned was not named, I imagine for legal reasons.  That employee has the best of my knowledge had no contact with Jeremy Bamber or his campaign team for over two years. 

For these reasons it is clear that Jeremy Bamber was not behind this letter.  The question therefore is, who sent it and why?  The clear inference from the article is that the letter was linked to the employee of the publishing company.  I have to admit that when first told of this I had the same thought, although I did not express any view on it to the journalist.  However, when I read the article and realised what it contained apart from the references to me I changed my view.  If the employee, who had come within a hair's breadth of losing her job, had written this letter I believe the last thing she would have done would be to include a reference in it to "using the public sector", thus directly linking to her employer.

I doubt if we will ever know who sent this letter.  My firm view is that it was sent with the intention of harming Jeremy Bamber, me and the employee of the publishing company. 


       


thats certanly my view as well.

it also strikes me that writer of the letter wanted paul harrison to think they were jackie.

the fact they mention nggb in the letter suggests they have some sort  of grudge agianst him.
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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2014, 02:57:PM »
Hello Mr. Gee I am lost who is Robertson?
Sorry Susan I meant "Harrison" not Robertson. I am trying to do 101 things today I may have had Robertons Jam this morning. ;D

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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2014, 02:57:PM »
This Robertson article also speaks about Bamber being at the back of all these "death threats" and has power from within prison to influence his "disciples". Sorry but U must really laugh at this as this man claims to have been in contact with Bamber for about 3 years. If that is true then he will know that Bamber is a category "A" prisoner and that everything he does, every visitor, every phone call and every letter is vetted and that he cannot possibly run a mafia type gang fron inside.
I'm afraid this tells me much more about Robertson than it does about Bamber. It tells me that he certainly has a vivid imagination. I also challenge him to publish the actual letter for us all to see and examine for ourselves.
This man far from being in danger himself has in fact put people's lives and careers in danger. May I also remind members here that he sent Jackie a pm asking her to contact him by email and that he tells her to "keep up the good work for Bamber".
Now you may or may not believe me? That is up to every individual. I have no control over that. But please keep in mind that death threats are a criminal offence and of this letter is real then he should go to the police about it. I stongly encourage him to do so. That way this matter can be investigated by the proper authorities so that lies and accusations may not be flying around hurting innocent people. I implore everyone to take into consideration an old saying, "A lie is half way round the world before truth has even started out".

Wrong, Grahame. Jackie lied about that - but I am sure Caroline will be along shortly to correct you.

Sorry Susan I meant "Harrison" not Robertson. I am trying to do 101 things today I may have had Robertons Jam this morning. ;D

You've got me caling him Robertson too now  ;D Roberston, Doyle, Harrison.  ;D

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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2014, 02:59:PM »
well jackie dident start the online roumours he was dead.

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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2014, 03:02:PM »
Mr Gee just logged on and was trying to pick up on the story and was confused by Robertson  :'( it is an excellent jam especially the strawberry ;D