The funeral. A time to grieve, or a time to celebrate ?

[Adam]

Having missed a memorial service, Jeremy thought he better attend the funeral.

Rather than the funeral getting in the way of his gallivanting around Europe, it was decided that a day should be made of it.

A lovely Hugo Boss suit was bought especially for the day out.  Champagne was ordered for the funeral reception, although rumours that the recently purchased 'Amsterdam'  cannabis was also available, is untrue.

Jeremy was concerned about the cameras not getting his good side. For a laugh, Brett suggested make up was worn to make him look more pale. Julie did not want to go, but was persuaded. 'Jolly up' buddie Brett was of course present. He wouldn't miss it for the world.

At the funeral Jeremy did Bob De Niro proud,  once he exited the car. Looking down and uncomfortable,  holding his hand over his face and making the same groaning sound Ann Eaton said he had made with her. The already suspicious relatives following behind.

Afterwards a relative was upset when Jeremy refused to allow her into the car. 'You're not coming with us, go with that lot'.

Things lightened up later, with friends at the Champagne reception. Especially when Jeremy entered the room. He stayed away from the relatives preferring to stay with friends in the far corner. Pointing at his Hugo Boss suit and saying 'Me Boss'.

For a short period, he really was 'the boss'. 

[lookout]

 The old Hugo Boss suit.-----------My g/sons have Armani !
Champagne drank at any occasion,Moet Chandon-------my favourite tipple.

A lot of funerals are now celebrations of the deceaseds' lives. Whether you grieve or celebrate is purely a matter of choice.I see no wrong,nor do I look at other people what they're doing,smiling or crying. There's no hard and fast rules on how a person behaves.

This is a non-starter as far as I'm concerned. I 've been to 3 this year and the first one was a slap-up do like a party------------with champagne ! To cheer the good man on his way.

Grieving is a personal thing which happens in phases.

[lookout]

  Wouldn't you agree that Jeremys' way was far better than seeing a drunken crowd knocking seven bells out of one another as is the norm in some places ?

I really don't, and can't see what all the fuss is about. It's nit-picking again and I can't be doing with it.

[Jan]

And I was accused of being biased?

not  even going to grace this thread with a comment .

[tyler]

Lookout,Jools Holland's favourite tipple is Moet Chandon aswell. He always has it as part of his rider at concerts. When my hubby worked as security for him he would bring a bottle home,but I can't stand the stuff!

[lookout]

Well there you are,tyler. Only the best people drink it.  I like Jools.
Last holiday,there was an offer on at duty free,2 bottles of Moet reduced. It went down well for us girls on holiday. Aussie champagne is delicious and good enough to drink for breakfast.

[Mr. Gee]

And I was accused of being biased?

not  even going to grace this thread with a comment .

LOL You're only biased if you are a Bamber supporter. Haven't you learned that simple equation yet Jan?

[Mr. Gee]

Well there you are,tyler. Only the best people drink it.  I like Jools.
Last holiday,there was an offer on at duty free,2 bottles of Moet reduced. It went down well for us girls on holiday. Aussie champagne is delicious and good enough to drink for breakfast.

I once entered a driving competition with Bates Motors in Maldon wqhere they were trying to promote  Daihatsu car and won £20 of free petrol and 2 bottles of Harrods wine. It was horrible. I could now see why they were anxious to give it away in a competition.

[lookout]

I once entered a driving competition with Bates Motors in Maldon wqhere they were trying to promote  Daihatsu car and won £20 of free petrol and 2 bottles of Harrods wine. It was horrible. I could now see why they were anxious to give it away in a competition.

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If I remember rightly,the offer on the Moet was 2 bottles for £50. I keep meaning to look in Asda each time I go,to see how much it is and whether there was much of a saving---------probably not.
Folk see me coming,I think. I've got that sort of a face.

[guest154]

Depends on the person, I guess Adam. Everyone grieves differently.

[scipio_usmc]

LOL You're only biased if you are a Bamber supporter. Haven't you learned that simple equation yet Jan?

No you are biased when you decide you want to believe a certian thing regarless of what the facts might be and then disregard those facts that prove your beliefs impossible instead of researhcing the facts, following the facts and making a decision based on those facts.

That is why those who beleive Jeremy is guilty can explain why and provide evidence and a rational basis for their beliefs while Jeremy supports can't provide a rational basis for their beliefs or evidence to back up their beliefs.

A perfect example is the bogus claim that Nevill phoned police.  6 people voted that they believe Nevill called police.  Not one of them could provide a rational basis for such belief though.  Worse yet one of them originally said it would makes no sense for Nevill to call Jeremy and then immediately call police and who cares that he didn't call police.  Upon learning it would help establish Jeremy's innocence she decided to ignore her own reasoning and decide to believe Nevill called just because it would help Jeremy.

That is bias.

Ignoring that Sheila could not have shot herself without getting GSR on her hands and clothing and that she was GSR free and still insisting she did it anyway because they want Jeremy to be innocent is the result of bias. 

Ignoring the moderator evidence by arguing it could have been innocently contaminated even though there is no way for innocent contamination to deposit blood on the first 8 baffles is the result of bias.

Ignoring that Sheila was receiving the optimal effective dosage of Haldol at the time of her death and suggesting it would not have worked because her dosage was cut in half is a bogu argument resoirted to because of bias.

Ignoring Sheila was not taking the countering agent to her Haldol and suggesting because her dosage was halved that means the countering agent was too high a dosage and stopped her Haldon from working is a bogus argument resorted to because of bias.   

Ignoring that Jeremy lied to police by telling them Sheila could use all guns in the house and that he taught her how to use the murder weapon is because of bias.

Ignoring Jeremy was never known to shoot rabbits and that he staged too many bullets thus his tale of taking out the gun and bullets to shoot rabbits is not credible is ignored because of bias.

Pretending windows that Jeremy admitted to using to enter and exit were too spam for him o climb through is because of bias.

I can give another 40 plus examples of bias being used to ignore facts and evidence tha timplicates Jeremy. 

[Mr. Gee]

No you are biased when you decide you want to believe a certian thing regarless of what the facts might be and then disregard those facts that prove your beliefs impossible instead of researhcing the facts, following the facts and making a decision based on those facts.

That is why those who beleive Jeremy is guilty can explain why and provide evidence and a rational basis for their beliefs while Jeremy supports can't provide a rational basis for their beliefs or evidence to back up their beliefs.

A perfect example is the bogus claim that Nevill phoned police.  6 people voted that they believe Nevill called police.  Not one of them could provide a rational basis for such belief though.  Worse yet one of them originally said it would makes no sense for Nevill to call Jeremy and then immediately call police and who cares that he didn't call police.  Upon learning it would help establish Jeremy's innocence she decided to ignore her own reasoning and decide to believe Nevill called just because it would help Jeremy.

That is bias.

Ignoring that Sheila could not have shot herself without getting GSR on her hands and clothing and that she was GSR free and still insisting she did it anyway because they want Jeremy to be innocent is the result of bias. 

Ignoring the moderator evidence by arguing it could have been innocently contaminated even though there is no way for innocent contamination to deposit blood on the first 8 baffles is the result of bias.

Ignoring that Sheila was receiving the optimal effective dosage of Haldol at the time of her death and suggesting it would not have worked because her dosage was cut in half is a bogu argument resoirted to because of bias.

Ignoring Sheila was not taking the countering agent to her Haldol and suggesting because her dosage was halved that means the countering agent was too high a dosage and stopped her Haldon from working is a bogus argument resorted to because of bias.   

Ignoring that Jeremy lied to police by telling them Sheila could use all guns in the house and that he taught her how to use the murder weapon is because of bias.

Ignoring Jeremy was never known to shoot rabbits and that he staged too many bullets thus his tale of taking out the gun and bullets to shoot rabbits is not credible is ignored because of bias.

Pretending windows that Jeremy admitted to using to enter and exit were too spam for him o climb through is because of bias.

I can give another 40 plus examples of bias being used to ignore facts and evidence tha timplicates Jeremy.

Scipio bias is just a description of the way you lean as the wood in bowls has a bias. It has nothing to do whether you guided by the facts or not. Everybody is biased one way or the other it has no merrit at all it is just a descriptive word.

[Adam]

More interesting points.

Liz said Jeremy was in a jovial mood on the funeral day.

Brett suggested Jeremy wear white powder for a laugh. Jeremy agreed.

At the reception Jeremy avoided the relatives. Staying with Julie and friends.

After the reception Jeremy thought it an excellent idea to go out with friends. Julie didn't want to, but Jeremy insisted. 'Now was the time to relax' he said. Brett was now using Neville's old Citroen & six people piled in.

Cocktails, wine and champayne was drank. Everyone got drunk. Jeremy and Brett happily engaged with other people in the restaurant.

After arriving home, Jeremy switched on his video recorder. He wanted to watch the news coverage of the funeral. Telling friends earlier that he hoped the camera's caught his best side. He was angry when the video didn't work.

Undeterred the following morning Jeremy bought a stack of newspapers. So he could read reports of the funeral.

Jeremy told Andy Bishop he was pleased that Brett and Julie both wanted his attention.

Jeremy told Andy he wanted to sort out the death duties & wills before going on holiday. It was doubtful he would keep the tenancy at WHF.

Now the funeral was over, it was time for Andy, Karen (Bishop) Brett, Julie & Jeremy to go on holiday to Eastbourne.

[Adam]

The twins funeral was the following Monday.

Jeremy was composed. Julie wept.

Ina Pargeter, the wife of Jeremy's cousin, Anthony went to share a funeral car with Jeremy. However Jeremy said 'You're not coming in here. Go with that lot'

Ina Pargeter was in tears.

[maggie]

The twins funeral was the following Monday.

Jeremy was composed. Julie wept.

Ina Pargeter, the wife of Jeremy's cousin, Anthony went to share a funeral car with Jeremy. However Jeremy said 'You're not coming in here. Go with that lot'

People are allocated places in funeral cars Adam, where did that quote come from?  He may very well have told her she wasn't allocated to that car and to go in the car she was allocated to be in, so what?.  You are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.