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Offline lookout

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #180 on: October 18, 2014, 01:05:PM »
The grand decision was probably when someone will have told JM that if he goes to prison,he relinquishes every halfpenny that she " may " have thought would come his way,so she plumped for the lesser of the two evils-----£25,000 from the NOTW.

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #181 on: October 18, 2014, 01:07:PM »
Adam if they aid that kind of thing Adam then obviously he did NOT have the best defence team did he. Certainly looking a the weak way they handled his case then no I do not agree with you and no I do not know it. I only have your word for that. Perhaps if you weren't so garrulous I might be able to glean a bit of new information from you?

His legal team working on the four failed appeals must also be rubbish to.

Shame.
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #182 on: October 18, 2014, 01:07:PM »
The flippin' champagne again.What's wrong with that if it's your preferred tipple ? A friend of mine used to buy it by the crate,1 doz bottles--------for births,marriages and deaths.

What's your problem that he went on holiday ? The Boss suit too ?

Your problem is the green-eyed monster syndrome.! Get over it !
I wonder if the prosecution retrieved the receipts from the hotel to prove that it was a "lavish" hotel? Personally understanding the way lawyers speak it was just hype by them in order to villify Bamber in the eyes of the jury? Anyone who falls for that find of thing is a mug.

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #183 on: October 18, 2014, 01:09:PM »
His legal team working on the four failed appeals must also be rubbish to.

Shame.
Not necessarily so Adam. Obviously you do not understand the way appeals work? They do not replay the whole case again. All they do is examine the new evidence put to them which is not the same thing at all.

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #184 on: October 18, 2014, 01:11:PM »
Not necessarily so Adam. Obviously you do not understand the way appeals work? They do not replay the whole case again. All they do is examine the new evidence put to them which is not the same thing at all.

So he has had a good legal team since conviction ?
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #185 on: October 18, 2014, 01:11:PM »
That is more or less what I am saying. You are very hard on her.

She was 20 years old. Dragged over to WHF, Eastbourne, funerals & Amsterdam within a few days.

She was caught up in an unexpected situation. Never expecting the massacre would happen.  Jeremy telling her it was MM and it was an 'open & shut' case. Jeremy is very persuasive. And charming.

Threads already created.

She also loved him and did not want to believe what had happened.
And you appear to be very gullible young man. It appears that every woman on this forum does not like Mugford. Why? Because they can see right through her. She was thief in her own right long before the murders.

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #186 on: October 18, 2014, 01:15:PM »
And you appear to be very gullible young man. It appears that every woman on this forum does not like Mugford. Why? Because they can see right through her. She was thief in her own right long before the murders.

Oh yes. Susan Battersby's 1984 minor cheque book fraud.

Something Jeremy's supporters cling on to.

The defence brought this up at trial. The jury knew all about it. If it is so damning on Julie, the other evidence against Jeremy must have been pretty damning. They voted... guilty.
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #187 on: October 18, 2014, 01:15:PM »
And you appear to be very gullible young man. It appears that every woman on this forum does not like Mugford. Why? Because they can see right through her. She was thief in her own right long before the murders.





Oh I don't know.The red forum LOVE JM.! She couldn't put a foot wrong in their eyes !

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #188 on: October 18, 2014, 01:19:PM »
That is more or less what I am saying. You are very hard on her.

She was 20 years old. Dragged over to WHF, Eastbourne, funerals & Amsterdam within a few days.

She was caught up in an unexpected situation. Never expecting the massacre would happen.  Jeremy telling her it was MM and it was an 'open & shut' case. Jeremy is very persuasive. And charming.

Threads already created.

She also loved him and did not want to believe what had happened.


Sorry Adam, but if I'm being "very hard on her", you're undermining her, insulting her intelligence and rendering her to a mindless bimbo. We're talking about a woman with a brain. A woman who was quite capable of doing simple calculation and I feel ABSOLUTELY certain that -for a little while, at least- she saw a better furture for herself, living the high life with Jeremy, as a better option than living in shared digs and teaching children who might not be interested in being taught. It MAY have been a fantasy, but young women ARE allowed them and but for the hiccup of 5 dead people, Julie was close to living hers. It really DOESN'T matter what Jeremy told her OR how persuasive he was. She was bright enough to make her own mind up.

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #189 on: October 18, 2014, 01:21:PM »
Oh yes. Susan Battersby's 1984 minor cheque book fraud.

Something Jeremy's supporters cling on to.

The defence brought this up at trial. The jury knew all about it. If it so damning on Julie, the other evidence against Jeremy must have been pretty damning. They voted... guilty.
MINOR? They stole over £800 worth of stuff which they got rid of somehow. People have been sent to prison for less and I wonder why they chose that particular tiome to own up to it?
You know Adam I am a bit worried that you continually appear to refer to crime as "minor". No crime is minor. Is that what you are going to teach your kids. "Oh don't worry children, the fraud you have just committed is only minor". You really do say some rediculous things sometimes. ::)

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #190 on: October 18, 2014, 01:23:PM »




Oh I don't know.The red forum LOVE JM.! She couldn't put a foot wrong in their eyes !
That is because crooks and liars recognise their own brood lookout.
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #191 on: October 18, 2014, 01:25:PM »
MINOR? They stole over £800 worth of stuff which they got rid of somehow. People have been sent to prison for less and I wonder why they chose that particular tiome to own up to it?
You know Adam I am a bit worried that you continually appear to refer to crime as "minor". No crime is minor. Is that what you are going to teach your kids. "Oh don't worry children, the fraud you have just committed is only minor". You really do say some rediculous things sometimes. ::)

The police knew nothing about this until after she had completed her WS. Anyway Jeremy robbed from the very people he massacred.

It's a dead duck for you Grahame. It was brought up in court. The defence had nothing else on her.

If it undermined the key witness so much,  why was there a guilty verdict ?
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #192 on: October 18, 2014, 01:26:PM »
Adam please do not keep referring to cheque book fraud as "minor"

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #193 on: October 18, 2014, 01:27:PM »
The police knew nothing about this until after she had completed her WS. Anyway Jeremy robbed from the very people he massacred.

It's a dead duck for you Grahame. It was brought up in court. The defence had nothing else on her.

If it undermined the key witness so much,  why was there a guilty verdict ?
I rather think that you had better examine your own moral state Adam if you continue to refer to  chequebook fraud "minor". If it was a dead duck then why do you keep mentioning it.
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #194 on: October 18, 2014, 01:29:PM »
I rather think that you had better examine your own moral state Adam if you continue to call chequbook fraud "minor". If it was a dead duck then why do you keep mentioning it.

Other people keep mentioning it. To suggest Julie lied to the police, lawyers & courts. Why ? Because according to Jeremy he jilted her.
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