Jeremy's court testimony:

[Jan]

In his book, Colin writes (more than once) that Sheila´s condition deteriorated significantly every time she had been to WHF. Every time.
The last visit was something June "forced" (she apparently had her ways of making people do what she wanted, the family did what she commanded, and Nevill went along with it passively.)
Sheila didn´t want to go, the twins didn´t want to go - in fact the twins were desperate not to go, clinging to Colin and crying inconsolably, when he was about to leave. He writes that they had never clung to him so fiercely as that last time he saw them.
Very sad to think about.

Alias - have you got to the end of the book? Do you think it is worth reading- to give a broader picture?

[Mr. Gee]

Hi Mr. Gee/lookout I agree Jeremy Bamber could be the most arrogant nasty human being on this earth but does not make him a murderer.  The reason I mentioned the stuff out of the book is I thought some on the forum may be interested in how Colin perceived him yet I know others who see him so differently.  Yet every post I have made from Colin's book has been discredited on this forum now that is not fair as I am sure Colin knew Sheila and Jeremy better than any of us and I think he may have been biased but some truth I am sure in his words.  I rest my case

I don't think that I have discredited anything he said Susan? Except when he mentioned that a robin had led them to the window Jeremy was supposed to have used. Personally I believe the relatives had plenty of opportunity to work on him on many things. I know he wrote the book years after the events, but at the time his mind was open to suggestions by them because of the grief he was suffering?

[Alias]

i wonder why her condition deterated.

This is my own personal belief, but I don´t think that Sheila was in fact mentally ill.
I think that Sheila "carried" June´s illness for the whole family (I have said this before, sorry, I know.... ).
It seems that Colin is of the same opinion.
June and Sheila together: a very unhealthy cocktail.

[Alias]

Alias - have you got to the end of the book? Do you think it is worth reading- to give a broader picture?

No, I haven´t read it all, have to pull myself together - will though! 
It is worth reading, because you get some insight into the Bamber family dynamics; it is not all that well written, and Colin has some strange perspetives sometimes, but he knew all the persons involved well, unlike other authors who are outsiders.
Absolutely read it, jansus.
BTW, this is the only book I have (almost) read about the case.

[susan]

Hi Mr Gee I did not mean you sorry.  I had not heard about the robin and I am sure people did have time to work on Colin's mind which I suspect was fragile and think Colin was a tad weak.

[Mr. Gee]

Hi Mr Gee I did not mean you sorry.  I had not heard about the robin and I am sure people did have time to work on Colin's mind which I suspect was fragile and think Colin was a tad weak.

Hi Susan, no I know you didn't mean me.

[nugnug]

This is my own personal belief, but I don´t think that Sheila was in fact mentally ill.
I think that Sheila "carried" June´s illness for the whole family (I have said this before, sorry, I know.... ).
It seems that Colin is of the same opinion.
June and Sheila together: a very unhealthy cocktail.

maybe she had some sort of bad memory of whf.

[susan]

Alias I agree with every word you have said about the book and it is well worth a read as he knew the family and Jeremy so may be we are getting a more accurate picture of them and their behaviour.

[susan]

Mr. Gee 

[susan]

Jackie indeed I have not but then again I have said nothing wrong about Jeremy Bamber and his school days Colin repeated what the Headmaster had to say.How can I comment on Jeremy Bamber's school days I had never heard of him until 4 years ago.

[nugnug]

did colin get this from the headmaster derectly or did somone else tell him.

[Alias]

maybe she had some sort of bad memory of whf.

Yes, that is probably very true.
Also, she apparently, again according to Colin, had an ongoing very toxic relationship with June. Actually Colin is specific about it being because of June mainly.

[Alias]

did colin get this from the headmaster derectly or did somone else tell him.

I can´t imagine Colin talking to Jeremy´s former headmaster!

[lookout]

This is my own personal belief, but I don´t think that Sheila was in fact mentally ill.
I think that Sheila "carried" June´s illness for the whole family (I have said this before, sorry, I know.... ).
It seems that Colin is of the same opinion.
June and Sheila together: a very unhealthy cocktail.

I agree with you Alias,as I had always thought that it was June who was the " sick " one.

[JackiePreece]

Yes, that is probably very true.
Also, she apparently, again according to Colin, had an ongoing very toxic relationship with June. Actually Colin is specific about it being because of June mainly.

Colin seems to be blaming a lot of people

As lookout said what about in sickness and health

Would Colin have been more supportive if she had cancer?
Instead of mental health problems
You read about all Sheila's problems and yet she seemed to have no one
Look at the happy smiling Sheila in family photos we have seen to the later photo
It was an absolute tragedy