A night of 'mysterious' phone calls and alleged phone calls:

[lookout]

Bewes said he arrived about 2 minutes after they did. Hardly any time at all. I'm really baffled as to why it is used by some to say he was "delaying" the police?

Just another straw to grasp.

[Adam]

Where's the proof that he stopped to put a jumper on anyway?

No on is saying he did.

Grahame said he had a spare jumper in his car. It later came to light that this was a joke post after I requested a source.

He did have a shirt, two jumpers and a jacket on. And one 10p coin.

[Adam]

Bewes said he arrived about 2 minutes after they did. Hardly any time at all. I'm really baffled as to why it is used by some to say he was "delaying" the police?

Bews's WS says Jeremy arrived 3/4 minutes later. A lot of minutes.

It is only a 7 minute car journey at at average speed (see Mike's video). There was no traffic and the police passed him on the way.

Jeremy must have been driving as fast as an old tug boat. But as other people have said, he was scared.

[lookout]

Bews's WS says Jeremy arrived 3/4 minutes later. A lot of minutes.

It is only a 7 minute car journey at at average speed (see Mike's video). There was no traffic and the police passed him on the way.

Jeremy must have been driving as fast as an old tug boat. But as other people have said, he was scared.

Wouldn't you have been scared at not knowing what you were going in to.?
I always thought that " murderers " weren't scaredy cats ??

[Mr. Gee]

No on is saying he did.

Grahame said he had a spare jumper in his car. It later came to light that this was a joke post after I requested a source.

He did have a shirt, two jumpers and a jacket on. And one 10p coin.

Rge joke was about the copper stopping to put a jumper on.

[Reader]

He didn't stop Reader.

I expect you're right.

It's a bit odd that some statements suggested that CA7 waited 3 to 4 minutes for him to arrive. There's wasn't much reason for exaggerating this time and yet estimating Jeremy's speed as 30mph when he was overtaken. Had CA7 averaged 50 mph for the final mile, whilst Jeremy averaged 25 mph, CA7 would have been waiting where they stopped for just 72 seconds before Jeremy got there (because CA7 would have taken 72 seconds, whereas Jeremy would have taken 144 seconds). None of the statements of the officers in CA7 suggest Jeremy was asked anything at the time in relation to how long it had taken for him to catch them up.

Ps Bews seemed to have realized that the estimates didn't make sense, as his statement of 19/09/85 corrected his earlier statement by saying the 3 to 4 minute wait was timed from when Jeremy was overtaken rather than from when CA7 parked. However, Pc Saxby and Pc Myall didn't make this correction, and the correction is bizarre anyway as there was no reason to estimate the duration of that interval and the duration still seems exaggerated.

[John]

Wouldn't you have been scared at not knowing what you were going in to.?
I always thought that " murderers " weren't scaredy cats ??

Oh he was scared alright, bloody terrified actually.  Wouldn't you be knowing what you had just done and what the possible consequences might be?  No wonder he went off and puked after the adrenalin had worn off.

It takes a certain type of guy to shoot two sleeping children in the head and face.

[Mr. Gee]

Bews's WS says Jeremy arrived 3/4 minutes later. A lot of minutes.

It is only a 7 minute car journey at at average speed (see Mike's video). There was no traffic and the police passed him on the way.

Jeremy must have been driving as fast as an old tug boat. But as other people have said, he was scared.

This is what Bewes actually meant which I estimate that they waited around a couple of minutes? But 3-4 minutes is still not very long and could never be counted as a "delaying tactic" by Bamber. To say so is in my opinion just silly.

[lookout]

Oh he was scared alright, bloody terrified actually.  Wouldn't you be knowing what you had just done and what the possible consequences might be?  No wonder he went off and puked after the adrenalin had worn off.

Erm,the truth NEVER scares me,the same as it doesn't scare Jeremy.
Sudden shock makes you sick,it's a well known fact with a lot of people. Shock at hearing bad news--------or doesn't it affect you ??

[lookout]

Oh he was scared alright, bloody terrified actually.  Wouldn't you be knowing what you had just done and what the possible consequences might be?  No wonder he went off and puked after the adrenalin had worn off.

It takes a certain type of guy to shoot two sleeping children in the head and face.

Sick is how you'll look when Jeremy is released !

[Mr. Gee]

Erm,the truth NEVER scares me,the same as it doesn't scare Jeremy.
Sudden shock makes you sick,it's a well known fact with a lot of people. Shock at hearing bad news--------or doesn't it affect you ??

If he had just killed 5 people even at that time he would have been as high as a kite because of the adrenalin in his body.

[lookout]

If he had just killed 5 people even at that time he would have been as high as a kite because of the adrenalin in his body.

He would for sure. His body language would have been a dead give-away.

[Mr. Gee]

He would for sure. His body language would have been a dead give-away.

He would have an unconrollable shake throughout his whole body.

[lookout]

He would have an unconrollable shake throughout his whole body.

You're telling me.

[Reader]

But as other people have said, he was scared.

What other people? In regard to his arrival at WHF, Ps Bews and Pc Myall used identical wording to state that he did not appear dishevelled in any way and did not appear to be emotionally excited.