Jeremy is the only witness to this conversation.
A lot seemed to go on in the short period Jeremy was at WHF, the evening before the massacre.
It was late, Sheila & June should have eaten. Neville tired after a long day. Rather than being in bed, or in other rooms they were all apparently sitting in the kitchen.
Jeremy seemed to simultaneously notice rabbits, load the rifle, go outside, and hear discussions about fostering.
Other posters have said Sheila's medical condition meant she was most likely to react in an aggressive way straight away if fostering was mentioned. Rather than be unresponsive and then suddenly go crazy hours later, unprovoked.
Colin Caffell had custody of the children, so Neville & June would have to speak to him. I have never read that they did.
Wasn't Sheila going to move into Jeremy's cottage ? Meaning Neville, June and other relatives would be nearby and able to assist? Something June and Neville would love doing. Not sure why fostering was needed as the twins spent most of the time with CC anyway.
I suppose Jeremy had to say something that people would think would act as a trigger for Sheila. The Folkes's said Sheila seemed happy enough at the time. I would be happy living rent free in London and going on a free summer holiday.
Sadly for the defence, the judge said Sheila's non responsiveness to the alleged fostering conversations meant it cannot be used as a reason for the later outburst.
Do other people believe the fostering conversation took place ?
There are 2 different questions really when did it take place and what was actually discussed during it?
Jeremy tells different stories of what was discussed. A first he made it sound like the kids would be taken away from Sheila and that is what he told Collin- that June and Nevill planned to have Sheila give the kids up for adoption.
But Jeremy later changed to saying they just talked to her about part time foster care and that she had little reaction to it. There is support that they were in fact considering part time foster care help so this is actually plausible while them arranging for Sheila to give up custody is not.
I tend to think they did have the conversation but that Jeremy might have lied about when they had the conversation. He might have made up that it was the night of the murders just to support his claim that Sheila did it they could have told Sheila prior in the day or a prior day even.
I find it interesting that he said she had little reaction as opposed to saying she flipped out. If he was making up the conversaiton he would have made up that she blew up as well. So I tend to think it did happen and that she did have little reaction though it probably happened a different time than he claims and his later account of it just eing about par ttim eforste rcare is what really was discussed.
He walked back a lot of his initial claims to police the night of the murders such as that they were going to force her to give up custody. He did relate such lies to Collin hough and even told Collin there was a heated argument that was ongoing as he left. Interestingly enough though that is not what he put in his statement. In his statement he said she had little reaction and Nevill said they could discuss it further another time. He decided to lie to Collin to get Collin to believe that Sheila did it.
When it took place
